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02-13-2014, 06:46 AM
#861
Runs with scissors
Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: Going to hell in a bucket, but enjoying the ride .
Posts: 7,722
Originally Posted by Widget Idjet
I was lucky enough to be a sub-30 year old 737 captain when we had Delta Express. Crazy times. I upgraded to captain at Delta in half the time it took me to do the same at a commuter. It was a lot of fun while it lasted.
I was a MD88 Capt. 6 years after I was hired at DL, at age 32...for 9 months. Then they sold the DC9's and those guys jumped onto the MD88, spitting all us 6yr. Capts. out the bottom, back to the right seat for many years.
5 years later, as I was just getting senior enough to hold the 737-200 mainline left seat, they were pulled off the mainline and put into...
EXPRESS!
02-13-2014, 07:27 AM
#863
Runs with scissors
Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: Going to hell in a bucket, but enjoying the ride .
Posts: 7,722
Originally Posted by Widget Idjet
I went back to the right seat in the 767. Express was a great deal only for the very junior. I hope we never see that C scale stuff again. It set a very bad precedent for the industry.
Any wonder why today we are working with 20 year old pay rates?
02-13-2014, 07:45 AM
#864
Line Holder
Joined APC: Dec 2011
Position: MD95A
Posts: 39
Sad thing is we all went to Express rates. I was making $167 as captain on Express before I was kicked off. Flash forward almost 10 years and I finally make more than that (yes, could have done it a little earlier). Does this mean I'm on B scale now?
02-13-2014, 07:49 AM
#865
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Originally Posted by Widget Idjet
Does this mean I'm on B scale now?
Yup, we all are now: The Bankruptcy Scale.
And as long as 51% or more keep voting yes for this crap, it will continue.
02-14-2014, 06:44 AM
#866
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2010
Posts: 631
Big question is, will the 747B, 330B, and 765B's take the 717A? Junior narrow body went 8200ish...?? Seems most of the wide body FO's can hold a junior NB CA seat (7ER not included). Anybody want to guess how junior 717A will go once we have all them?
02-14-2014, 07:05 AM
#867
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: 737A
Posts: 1,890
Originally Posted by LandGreen2
Big question is, will the 747B, 330B, and 765B's take the 717A? Junior narrow body went 8200ish...?? Seems most of the wide body FO's can hold a junior NB CA seat (7ER not included). Anybody want to guess how junior 717A will go once we have all them?
In my position, I do both domestic and international, and it's like flying for two different airlines. If I can manage to get my kids through school without upgrading, I may never bid a domestic only captain seat.
02-14-2014, 07:29 AM
#868
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All the 777 F/O's are there by choice, they could have held MD88 Capt. years ago. Many are displaced 767ER Capts. now.
I know many of the 777 F/O's I've spoken with on trips are bypassing the Capt. seat of anything smaller than the 767ER. Many of them have already "Been there, done that, not going back to narrowbody Capt. any time soon!" I did the same thing in the right seat of the MD11, waited until I could hold reserve with move ups before I bid the 767 left seat. Having already been in the left seat of the MD88, I was still a recovering dial a flap aholic and didn't want to go back to that hell hole.
A few of the junior ones have bid off to fly the A320 and 737 Capt. seat, but I doubt you'll see any who want to fly the 717.
I know many of the 777 F/O's I've spoken with on trips are bypassing the Capt. seat of anything smaller than the 767ER. Many of them have already "Been there, done that, not going back to narrowbody Capt. any time soon!" I did the same thing in the right seat of the MD11, waited until I could hold reserve with move ups before I bid the 767 left seat. Having already been in the left seat of the MD88, I was still a recovering dial a flap aholic and didn't want to go back to that hell hole.
A few of the junior ones have bid off to fly the A320 and 737 Capt. seat, but I doubt you'll see any who want to fly the 717.
02-14-2014, 08:05 AM
#869
The Brown Dot +1
Joined APC: Jun 2009
Position: 777B
Posts: 7,775
Originally Posted by Timbo
All the 777 F/O's are there by choice, they could have held MD88 Capt. years ago. Many are displaced 767ER Capts. now.
I know many of the 777 F/O's I've spoken with on trips are bypassing the Capt. seat of anything smaller than the 767ER. Many of them have already "Been there, done that, not going back to narrowbody Capt. any time soon!" I did the same thing in the right seat of the MD11, waited until I could hold reserve with move ups before I bid the 767 left seat. Having already been in the left seat of the MD88, I was still a recovering dial a flap aholic and didn't want to go back to that hell hole.
A few of the junior ones have bid off to fly the A320 and 737 Capt. seat, but I doubt you'll see any who want to fly the 717.
I know many of the 777 F/O's I've spoken with on trips are bypassing the Capt. seat of anything smaller than the 767ER. Many of them have already "Been there, done that, not going back to narrowbody Capt. any time soon!" I did the same thing in the right seat of the MD11, waited until I could hold reserve with move ups before I bid the 767 left seat. Having already been in the left seat of the MD88, I was still a recovering dial a flap aholic and didn't want to go back to that hell hole.
A few of the junior ones have bid off to fly the A320 and 737 Capt. seat, but I doubt you'll see any who want to fly the 717.
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