I've been thinking the same thing. Lay on the beach, umbrella drinks, sleep, wake up, fly home.

 

Anyone know if you receive the $3775 per month training pay from the start of Indoc until completion of IOE even if you have a wait of a month at home after Indoc until you start sims?

 

Its a salary. So, yes.

 

MikefromMT,

Noticed you increased the chart class numbers from 50/month to 60/month. Is there something out there driving the change, or is it just optimism?

 

A solid guy on here heard a "rumor from a very good source" that it's only a matter of time. Similar discussions a few pages back seem to make it sound like it's coming and that they have a total in mind for the year.

However, until there is a consistent flow it is pretty much worthless.

 

That's what I thought. Great product. I'm sitting about 175 on the current version. I'll be watching for the March class numbers.

 

A few questions about sitting Reserve:
- Are you paid for sitting Reserve?
- For long call, you have to be available the next day, right?
- What's the time leash for short call? 3 hours?

 

You get paid 72 hours on reserve. (a bit more in some circumstances)
Long call is 12 hours.
Short call is 2 hours.

 

Actually you are guaranteed to get paid ALV-2 (Average Line Value) with a min of 72 hrs and max of 80 hour a month. If you fly over the guarantee, you get what you fly.

Long call is 12hr notice.
Short call is generally considered to be 2hr, but the contractual wording is reasonably available. In places like NY or LA, that can be 3hr + depending on circumstances. It there is ice in ATL that can be days!

 

Long call is still being sorted out. There's a 12 hour component, then there's a 9 hour blackout component (3 hours prior to become notified) and then there's FAR 117 that is at odds with the 12 hour part of that because you then need 10 additional hours. The company made up a 2 hour rolling leash that pretty much no one is complying with because its a fabricated concession pulled out of thin air and they're pretending they don't need to negotiate, but they do, big time. So the issue will have to be settled through negotiations (oh the humanity!) instead of via unilateral memo. So long call will likely be different by the time you get on property, trained and out on the line than it is now because it simply has to change.

Reasonably available for short call is considered to be *about* 2 hours, with more for weather, traffic, etc and in "co-terminal" bases that's considered to be 2 hours from LAX in LA or any NYC airport of your choosing, and "reasonable report" (meaning as long or longer as necessary) for the others. Reasonable report in those cases can and often is substantially longer than 2 hours unless you have a helicopter.

Reserve guarantee is 72-80 hours and averages I think 75.5 for the year. You get a little more during vacation and training months, and quarterly CD learning pays above that too, plus sometimes you may fly above guarantee anyway so it'll be a bit more.