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02-22-2014 | 01:32 PM
#971
Da Hudge
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From: Poodle Whisperer
I do the CD to get an overview first and at the same time get the memory items down cold. From there it's the LOD interfaced with flows (I find that doing the flows helps me understand the systems functionality better). Then it's on to profiles.
I try to walk in on day 1 with all of that mostly down cold, that way training is just cleanup. It's easier on the instructors and easier on me.
02-22-2014 | 01:35 PM
#972
Da Hudge
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From: Poodle Whisperer
Far better odds than my present employer. Rumor was, in the past, we had around a 50% bust rate on captain upgrades. I don't know if that was ever really true or not, but I believe realistically we do have about a 7-10% bust rate on our new AQP/CQ program which is probably more than the FAA would like to see at this level.
Anyway, Delta's stats do speak for the quality of applicants they seek out, screen, and hire. I try to approach every training event by being as well-prepared and studied as I can, coming in with a great attitude (e.g. cooperate to graduate, don't argue with the check airman), and doing the best I can. If, despite this, I still fail--then I can hold my head high knowing that I did my best and it just wasn't meant to be.
Anyway, Delta's stats do speak for the quality of applicants they seek out, screen, and hire. I try to approach every training event by being as well-prepared and studied as I can, coming in with a great attitude (e.g. cooperate to graduate, don't argue with the check airman), and doing the best I can. If, despite this, I still fail--then I can hold my head high knowing that I did my best and it just wasn't meant to be.
When I went to upgrade at Pinnacle, it was a 50% bust rate on first attempt at upgrade. Part of it was just how poor the "training" department was, part of it was the applicants, and part of it was the instructors that were just given free reign to ask whatever. Amazing the night and day difference between that and a real training department.
02-22-2014 | 02:18 PM
#973
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Joined: Jan 2014
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No, sir. Freightdawg! 
Sorry if it's posted somewhere else; I couldn't find it. But what is LOD?
From what I've seen, most aircraft in the DL fleet (especially the Airbus and the 717) don't have hardly any "memory items" at all. I assume that, in addition to the memory items, they pretty much want you to know everything else in the limitations chapter too, right?
It goes to show that different techniques work for everyone.
I do the CD to get an overview first and at the same time get the memory items down cold. From there it's the LOD interfaced with flows (I find that doing the flows helps me understand the systems functionality better). Then it's on to profiles.
I try to walk in on day 1 with all of that mostly down cold, that way training is just cleanup. It's easier on the instructors and easier on me.
I do the CD to get an overview first and at the same time get the memory items down cold. From there it's the LOD interfaced with flows (I find that doing the flows helps me understand the systems functionality better). Then it's on to profiles.
I try to walk in on day 1 with all of that mostly down cold, that way training is just cleanup. It's easier on the instructors and easier on me.
From what I've seen, most aircraft in the DL fleet (especially the Airbus and the 717) don't have hardly any "memory items" at all. I assume that, in addition to the memory items, they pretty much want you to know everything else in the limitations chapter too, right?
02-22-2014 | 02:46 PM
#975
Doesn't Get Weekends Off
Joined: Jun 2007
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When I went to bus training after the merger I called NATCO to see what to do to get ready for training and the guy told me to study NOTHING before day one or it would screw me up. I think there was one limitation and like 3 boldface that my 8 year old could memorize in 10 seconds so I had those down. No LOD at the time on that fleet so I didn't look at a single thing. Best training cycle I have ever been through in my life. Now we have screwed that program up though so who knows how it is now.
02-22-2014 | 02:47 PM
#976
Doesn't Get Weekends Off
Joined: Jun 2007
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You don't have to have any of it committed to memory other than the # items, you just need to know there is a limitation and be smart enough to look it up. The 320 stuff can be memorized by any moron in like 3 minutes.
02-22-2014 | 02:48 PM
#977
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Sep 2008
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From: Kickin’ Back
No, sir. Freightdawg!
Sorry if it's posted somewhere else; I couldn't find it. But what is LOD?
From what I've seen, most aircraft in the DL fleet (especially the Airbus and the 717) don't have hardly any "memory items" at all. I assume that, in addition to the memory items, they pretty much want you to know everything else in the limitations chapter too, right?
Sorry if it's posted somewhere else; I couldn't find it. But what is LOD?
From what I've seen, most aircraft in the DL fleet (especially the Airbus and the 717) don't have hardly any "memory items" at all. I assume that, in addition to the memory items, they pretty much want you to know everything else in the limitations chapter too, right?
Denny
02-22-2014 | 03:47 PM
#978
Da Hudge
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From: Poodle Whisperer
02-22-2014 | 08:52 PM
#980
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Joined: Jan 2014
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I've heard that it goes by last four, highest to lowest, from a guy in Pilot Selection. Sucks for me, I start with a 2. NYC or Detroit Rock City, here I come! In a similar note, any idea from you guys how long it would take to bid and hold ATL on Junior iron for a newb? I'm guessing as more guys come in behind me it should be easier?
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