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02-20-2014, 07:55 PM
#941
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Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: Light Chop
Posts: 23,286
Originally Posted by C17flyguy
Heard today that DAL was authorized to hire 45 more atop the 300. 
Not quite 600 total, but moving in the right direction. 
In similar news, new hires today were told to expect Q4 training dates.
Maybe earlier if they spun up the machine faster.
Not quite 600 total, but moving in the right direction. In similar news, new hires today were told to expect Q4 training dates.
Maybe earlier if they spun up the machine faster.
02-20-2014, 08:12 PM
#942
On Reserve
Joined APC: Dec 2013
Posts: 12
Originally Posted by ColdUpHere
Do new hires go straight from Indoc into training on their jet, or is there a break between the two where they send you home to study and then start aircraft training?
If I remember correctly, they're supposed to give you at least 10 days off, between Indoc and IQ (Initial Qual training). It's going to be aircraft/pipeline specific, but coming out of a Jan Indoc, the shortest guy(s) had about 2 weeks, and the longest closer to 4. Regardless of the situation you end up in, just don't forget that it's a good problem to have...
02-20-2014, 08:32 PM
#943
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Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: Permanently scarred
Posts: 1,707
Originally Posted by JohnnyBravo
If I remember correctly, they're supposed to give you at least 10 days off, between Indoc and IQ (Initial Qual training). It's going to be aircraft/pipeline specific, but coming out of a Jan Indoc, the shortest guy(s) had about 2 weeks, and the longest closer to 4. Regardless of the situation you end up in, just don't forget that it's a good problem to have...
02-21-2014, 04:51 AM
#946
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Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: Captain Jack
Posts: 1,003
Know your flows and calls cold day one. The LOD should be known solid also. Arm chair fly with skins for calls and flows and you will never be on your heels or get a talkin to. BTW two guys I know of right now are in training problems. One just got fired....18 yrs with co and the other is very close to failing out with 16 years with the co. You can do a lot wrong but....but the training program is spelled out with exactly how much room you have to move and get retrained. Once you use up all your redo's , your done. Not to scare new hires but you made it this far, stick to your program.
02-21-2014, 04:57 AM
#947
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 4,932
Originally Posted by Imapilot2
Know your flows and calls cold day one. The LOD should be known solid also. Arm chair fly with skins for calls and flows and you will never be on your heels or get a talkin to. BTW two guys I know of right now are in training problems. One just got fired....18 yrs with co and the other is very close to failing out with 16 years with the co. You can do a lot wrong but....but the training program is spelled out with exactly how much room you have to move and get retrained. Once you use up all your redo's , your done. Not to scare new hires but you made it this far, stick to your program.
From what I understand, most guys that get to that point are usually reserve wide body pilots who hardly ever fly.
02-21-2014, 05:01 AM
#948
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Joined APC: Jun 2009
Position: 777B
Posts: 7,775
Originally Posted by Imapilot2
Know your flows and calls cold day one. The LOD should be known solid also. Arm chair fly with skins for calls and flows and you will never be on your heels or get a talkin to. BTW two guys I know of right now are in training problems. One just got fired....18 yrs with co and the other is very close to failing out with 16 years with the co. You can do a lot wrong but....but the training program is spelled out with exactly how much room you have to move and get retrained. Once you use up all your redo's , your done. Not to scare new hires but you made it this far, stick to your program.
That said, where a DAL pilot nails down his/her training habit patterns is in their first school. For military folks, it is a different way to train. Have your instructor write down the callouts and profiles for each event. Memorize them and you should have no training trouble. Try to shoot from the hip or think you've got the right stuff = training trouble.
02-21-2014, 05:09 AM
#949
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Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: Captain Jack
Posts: 1,003
Originally Posted by scambo1
I have heard about this as a recent change here at DAL. From what I understand, about 1-2 years ago, DAL and ALPA came to terms on an agreement that 3 training failures meant it was time to go find another job. That includes recurrent or initial. My understanding is that there are several in my fleet who are potentially on their way out the door.
That said, where a DAL pilot nails down his/her training habit patterns is in their first school. For military folks, it is a different way to train. Have your instructor write down the callouts and profiles for each event. Memorize them and you should have no training trouble. Try to shoot from the hip or think you've got the right stuff = training trouble.
That said, where a DAL pilot nails down his/her training habit patterns is in their first school. For military folks, it is a different way to train. Have your instructor write down the callouts and profiles for each event. Memorize them and you should have no training trouble. Try to shoot from the hip or think you've got the right stuff = training trouble.
Yup its three and your out now. I had a nice long talk with a big wig and he said that he hates to do it but its strictly done by the these rules now.
The new books have all the calls and flows spelled out. There doesn't need to be any input from instructors on those two items anymore.
02-21-2014, 05:11 AM
#950
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Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: Captain Jack
Posts: 1,003
Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
From what I understand, most guys that get to that point are usually reserve wide body pilots who hardly ever fly.
Usually but not in this case, both narrowbody.
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