Furloughs are going to happen anyway. We’re just delaying that.

 

That may very well be.

On the other hand, the whole world has flipped in the last 14 days. Who knows what it may be in 60. And that's really the point. Stem the bleeding, that gives time for both ALPA and management to chart a more clear path forward.

 

Just want to get the facts out in regards to C5. We have 3700 hours scheduled in April. Roughly a 60% cut. We are parking 13 planes in the short term. Our MOU goes until May 31st. Pilots have just finished submitting a bid for one of the following:

1. Normal line.
   1. 75 Hours of Pay
   2. 65 hour line
   3. We have the ability to give out 75 of these lines per seat.
   4. We then need a 30% reserve coverage. This works out to roughly 195 pilots who will receive normal lines.
2. 40 Hour Long Call Reserve
   1. 10 Days given to the company
   2. 72 hour call out
   3. The union does not expect these pilots to be used at all. This is only in the MOU to help give a paycheck to pilots and to aid in any possible snap back to regular ops.
   4. Long call cannot be converted to any other reserve, can only be scheduled to fly.
3. COLA
   1. All benefits kept
   2. No Pay
   3. Month to Month Bid
4. Voluntary Furlough
   1. All benefits kept under the MOU
   2. No Pay
   3. You come back when recalled.

In the end we need 80 pilots to take the COLA or Voluntary furlough. If we do indeed furlough 80 then that last pilot was hired in June of last year. About half of those 80 are not even line qualified yet and are still in some phase of training, with many sitting at home for months awaiting IOE.

We'll learn the results tonight, but from what I'm hearing the 40 Hour Reserve line is going to go senior on the Captain side, and the normal line is going to go to mid-tier / junior pilots. We have a handful of guys who have the ability to go without a paycheck for a month or two and are stepping up to take a leave.

 

WuFlu is the new preferred term.

 

[MENTION=34356]v1valarob[/MENTION] are those numbers readily available to line pilots? Meaning Seniority with DOH, along with monthly hour values?

Or are you pulling from different sources. I'm a newb but I love looking at data

 

Here we go with your ignorance again. You pretend to think you know how things work only because you would like things to have gone a different way. In reality, you would probably complain no matter what happened.

That "POS contract" was approved overwhelmingly by the rest of the pilot group. Just because you like to talk a lot, your opinion does not matter more than the rest of ours. The contract also does not govern how representation is handled. You would know that if you would actually reach out to your reps and ask them questions, instead of firing ignorant shots from behind your keyboard. I've talked to my rep continuously over the last few weeks and it sounds like the MEC was provided a lot of information and had to make a decision with that information. That is literally what they are in their positions to do. The fact that you think that this should have gone out to vote, means that you are uninformed, and then delusional if you think that we could have conducted a vote amongst the pilot group in next to no time at all.

Thanks for being a team player. All of us are in this together and you are not the only one that is going to temporarily receive less pay so that we can keep all our pilots on property.

If you think you have the solutions and out of the box thinking that will solve all of our problems, why don't you actually volunteer to help the group or apply for a management position where you can actually make some change. When this is all done, I hope we all keep our jobs and this industry flourishes again.

 

What else has your rep told you about what's going on?

 

You know that the LOA affects everyone, right? Your first April bid was nullified as soon as United eliminated that flying. The LOA actually keeps pilots on property while dealing with United's reduction.

 

Omnilash understands what's going on.

 

They talked to the Company. They worked on a short term deal with an expiration date. They tried to get the guarantee higher, but that would have made less lines. They made sure that the reduced lines didn't still have 12 days off. I was actually concerned about why reserves were going to get paid more than line holders, but I was told it was because there were more reserve days needed for there to be enough reserves in each day for each base.