The only thing that's different now from 2019 is that the outstation base is DAY and not CAE. It's literally the only thing. Every regional has random out of hub crew bases and we are no exception. Furthermore, ORD was artificially large because of the realignment last year. This is really just a return to the way things were before.

 

Unfortunately yes .The contract is up in a year and a half and Ua basically said we’re not renewing it with these aircraft. Now a lot can happen in that time , but all of the majors are scoped out on larger rjs. The saving grace would be if they could buy some old 700s and convert them to 550s . However, many of you may not know but Skywest is buying up all they can find and preparing to convert them. The problem is they are having a very hard time finding any , including overseas.So from that perspective it dosent look good.
Kirby said in his last announcement that 50 seat single class departures will be reduced to 10% of daily departures by 2023.As their new jets begin to come on line , they will begin a massive overhaul and realignment of their ac usage to phase out and I quote Kirby “ the small, unpopular 50 seat planes that our customers don’t enjoy flying on “ unquote .
All I’m saying is , you better start working on a plan B just in case they can’t come up with one. Maybe the freight thing will work ,but you best believe the schedules will be crappy and a lot of night flying and backside of the clock involved with that .

 

The reduction begins in 2023, not by 2023.


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good thing is with the Dayton base they can make DAY and CVG a co-base. 🤣

 

HA !! Potato or Potatoe?? What difference does it make ? It’s going to happen one way or another. Significant point about 2023, two 50 seat contracts expire in 2023. Not hardly a mistake . He said 200 of them will be gone and you would be crazy to think that doesn’t include our 65.
Maybe zw will buy out g7 or something and take most of the 550 flying?
Maybe
But if that was an option why spend the money to add the 700 to our certificate? Buy them , take over theirs . So I don’t think that will happen.
Your guess is as good as mine . The only certain thing is we all have a year and half or so to come up with a game plan . Start your volunteer work, get some LORs from a few people, put yourself out there and see what happens.
Air Willy stood pat way too long with the 200s, while Mesa and sky were adding 175s and growing their companies.The times / industry were changing and they didn’t keep up with the change.
If they would have been this aggressive years ago I truly believe we would all be talking about something else right now .

 

The hope against hope reminds me of the conversations about needing a college degree to get hired by most of the majors.

Do I need a four year college degree to get hired by xxxx major?

Well, 99% of their pilots have one.

So you are telling me there is a chance?

 

Remember “THE DRIVE”??
1987 afc championship game between Cleveland and Denver ??
Denver was 98 yards away from victory with minimal time left on the clock .
After numerous mistakes and blunders during the game they found a way behind Elway to drive the field and win .
Everyone had counted them out but they persevered .
Maybe zw is Denver and Elway ??
Maybe - it’s always a chance lol
😂😂😂😂🤣

 

This whole thread gives me deja vu of the Compass threads a while back. They seemed to always conspire some possible scenario that could lead them to new contract flying.

It’s my personal opinion Kirby is sending a message to plan accordingly, go find new work before the inevitable happens. We actually lost a lot of potential pilot candidates for the majors with these recent shutdowns (men/women deciding to hang it up, instead of starting over again at a new regional). I have a friend from Compass, who’s fairly young (late 20’s), decided he’d rather work a desk job and be home to see his now fiancé, than start over and commute to reserve for dog **** regional pay.

 

When the man who signs the checks says this is what I’m going to do and this is when I’m going to do it , it really doesn’t leave much room for debate .

 

I think you’re right. I get the sense Kirby is just trying to keep the potential future pilots surplus strong. When you get thrown on the street to start over, already working for a subpar regional airline, said individuals already got their feet wet, realized it wasn’t anything they imagined, and decide to go a different career route. Honestly, I don’t blame them.