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Old 12-13-2018, 04:39 PM
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New retirement numbers from the combined seniority list that was just released.

2019 - 20
2020 - 35
2021 - 47
2022 - 60
2023 - 57
2024 - 62
2025 - 87
2026 - 75
2027 - 98
2028 - 74
2029 - 105

That goes through the end of 2029 so is 11 years worth of retirements totaling 720 pilots out of our total of 2869 is only 25% of the list in 11 years. I say only because compared to the Big 3 that is quite a large difference. That combined with a growth rate of 2% for our regional carriers next year means I hope you enjoy where you’re at on the base position list.
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I wonder percentage wise how this compares to the big 3.
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I wonder percentage wise how this compares to the big 3.
As of Dec 2018, Delta has 14,472 pilots on the seniority list.

Here's the yearly breakdown over the same 11 year stretch for age 65 retirement. Numbers current as of Nov 2018.

2019 - 423
2020 - 531
2021 - 724
2022 - 803
2023 - 769
2024 - 776
2025 - 709
2026 - 605
2027 - 512
2028 - 509
2029 - 520

Total - 6,881 or 47.54%
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Originally Posted by TurbineDriver View Post
I wonder percentage wise how this compares to the big 3.
American is losing about 60% to retirement over the next 10 years and Delta and United are losing around 40-45%.
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Here is a table I made last year, shows the retirement breakdown among the majors, AS is definitely the smallest youngest airline of them all.. These numbers were pre merger not including VX, which seems it hasn’t changed all that much
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Originally Posted by Fixnem2Flyinem View Post
Here is a table I made last year, shows the retirement breakdown among the majors, AS is definitely the smallest youngest airline of them all.. These numbers were pre merger not including VX, which seems it hasn’t changed all that much
Thanks for the table, I will laminate it and carry it around to show to all the FOs I fly with. There is a surprising amount of people electing to stay at NK based on promised growth numbers, and we have very little retirements.
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Not really an valid comparison. Look at SWA, they are the same as us. Why?, single fleet type. The big 3 fly a lot of different airplanes, while the retirements are big they are not equal across fleet types. Take all of that into account and the difference it is not as bad as the raw numbers indicate.
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Originally Posted by PNWFlyer View Post
Not really an valid comparison. Look at SWA, they are the same as us. Why?, single fleet type. The big 3 fly a lot of different airplanes, while the retirements are big they are not equal across fleet types. Take all of that into account and the difference it is not as bad as the raw numbers indicate.
Lol ok whatever helps you sleep at night.
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Originally Posted by PNWFlyer View Post
Not really an valid comparison. Look at SWA, they are the same as us. Why?, single fleet type. The big 3 fly a lot of different airplanes, while the retirements are big they are not equal across fleet types. Take all of that into account and the difference it is not as bad as the raw numbers indicate.
I’m sorry, what are you trying to say?
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Lol ok whatever helps you sleep at night.
Lol almost wrote this response myself
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