Retirement Numbers
#41
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 342
Likes: 0
#42
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 492
Likes: 0
I was going to ask if you ignored the retirement numbers, but I already know the answer because otherwise you wouldn't have said that. Even if every pilot hired so far is younger than someone hired right now, there are still so many retirements that you'd be looking at being a line-holding captain in half that time or less.
#43
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 456
Likes: 0
Can’t speak for Delta, but at United 69.9% got it for December in SFO on a NB. So yeah, inside of 10 years to lineholding CA.
#44
Banned
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 8,831
Likes: 499
#45
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 4,556
Likes: 11
1/15 hire holding a line as a 737 captain
3/15 hire holding a line as a 717 captain
1/15 hire holding a line as a 320 captain
`
#46
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 9,348
Likes: 331
Going to Delta is an easy decision if you’ve been here less than 5 years. Anything beyond that, you’re leaving as an AS Captain to start over. That’s a risky proposition to give up that much. Only 2 years at AS? It’s much easier to leave and start over because you aren’t giving up much.
Last edited by ShyGuy; 12-16-2018 at 08:23 PM.
#47
Guest
Posts: n/a
Why does it belong there? I get the mou isn't going anywhere, but you seem to want avg 14 days off till the next contract. Why? Are you senior and since you had to go through it others below you should too? I would like to think we could come together on something like more days off even if it came before a contract cycle. I guess if we can't get behind that then we are doomed. I don't believe you represent the majority though.
#48
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,370
Likes: 0
From: 737 FO
There are pilots who choose to bid FO's as senior pilots. There are a lot of opportunities for a senior FO in a category. The #1 FO for NYC A220 would be the #1 CA if he'd bid for it. Without having spoken to him, he is likely planning on bidding to fly with LCA so he gets bought off most trips and can either get paid to not come in or green slip and get triple pay. Add onto that the widebody categories where there are more than a few who would prefer to be career FOs with the widebody schedule rather than fly domestic and there are a fair number of senior pilots flying right seat and we aren't even touching those who don't want to upgrade if they can hold a better schedule as an FO period or CAs biddin to be senior reserve. This means CA seats and CA lines go more junior.
Again this is only for accuracy. I'm sure the above applies to any airline that has both narrowbody and widebody flying.
#49
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 4,556
Likes: 11
Going to Delta is an easy decision if you’ve been here less than 5 years. Anything beyond that, you’re leaving as an AS Captain to start over. That’s a risky proposition to give up that much. Only 2 years at AS? It’s much easier to leave and start over because you aren’t giving up much.
Disagree. If you are a 12 year captain it still makes financial sense to leave for one of the big 3(depending how much time left). In less than 5 years you'd be making more at UA or DL...maybe more at AA depending on upgrade time. Your QOL would take a big hit during those years in terms of vacations and days off but would recover.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
#50
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 544
Likes: 0
From: Driving a Bus for Recreational Pleasure.
What we also forget is having an economic downturn. You’d be giving up a potential safety net. Remember when you zig the industry will zag and leave you out to dry. It’s a terrible industry to gamble in.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
PackTrip
Mergers and Acquisitions
22
12-15-2008 09:48 PM



