Retirement Numbers
#31
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And 8,000 behind you in less than 10 years. Those retirement numbers don’t change. Funny since you’re actively trying to get on too.
#32
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Why so uptight, maybe loosen up a button or two. Leaving one legacy airline for another legacy is a game of risk that requires calculation with many factors lined up against you the longer you've already been here. I'm at 8th yr in a couple months which means move across the country and stick it out to see what happens. The opportunity cost is high now.
Strictly speaking in terms of newhires, AA has had the lowest, then United, then Delta. In terms of average newhire ages, Delta has had the youngest average, then United, then American. AA is skewed older because of the predominant numbers of senior regional flows and military guys coming out of 20 yr careers. In terms of retirements, AA has by far the biggest in 10 yrs with 8,300. Those are all factors to consider for someone who may consider leaving to start over at the big 3.
Strictly speaking in terms of newhires, AA has had the lowest, then United, then Delta. In terms of average newhire ages, Delta has had the youngest average, then United, then American. AA is skewed older because of the predominant numbers of senior regional flows and military guys coming out of 20 yr careers. In terms of retirements, AA has by far the biggest in 10 yrs with 8,300. Those are all factors to consider for someone who may consider leaving to start over at the big 3.
#33
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We need a good scheduling mou. Less than 2 years on the Airbus gets you 18-19 days off even with the reduced trip productivity.
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2020 where it belonged in the first place. 14 day off avg lines are the norm.
#36
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Why does it belong there? I get the mou isn't going anywhere, but you seem to want avg 14 days off till the next contract. Why? Are you senior and since you had to go through it others below you should too? I would like to think we could come together on something like more days off even if it came before a contract cycle. I guess if we can't get behind that then we are doomed. I don't believe you represent the majority though.
#37
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I really appreciate you Delta guys coming in and setting the record straight. The ALK bubble in Seattle is strong and these guys have convinced themselves they've got the best jobs in the industry.
Thanks for laying down some hard facts. Maybe it will help them rethink their situations.
Thanks for laying down some hard facts. Maybe it will help them rethink their situations.
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#39
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How do you get hired on at Delta with a 2014 hire date now? Or even a 2016 hire date if one would want to?
Just wondering because we're entering 2019, and with the amount of young guys getting hired at the legacies, you're looking at a nice long career of either a senior FO in 20 years or a reserve captain.
Just wondering because we're entering 2019, and with the amount of young guys getting hired at the legacies, you're looking at a nice long career of either a senior FO in 20 years or a reserve captain.
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How do you get hired on at Delta with a 2014 hire date now? Or even a 2016 hire date if one would want to?
Just wondering because we're entering 2019, and with the amount of young guys getting hired at the legacies, you're looking at a nice long career of either a senior FO in 20 years or a reserve captain.
Just wondering because we're entering 2019, and with the amount of young guys getting hired at the legacies, you're looking at a nice long career of either a senior FO in 20 years or a reserve captain.
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12-15-2008 09:48 PM


2 years and already you have a superiority complex

