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05-26-2020 | 10:14 PM
#171
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Historically, we have had about 3 pilots per bid block on the BPL’s.... Nov 2020 should require no less then 2000 and no more than 2200 pilots on the BPL’s....Go with 2100, from the 3096 total cut 200 for LTD, Mngmnt etc....Gives you 2896..Maybe 50 retirements and it goes to 2846....Subtract the 2100 and 746 is the starting number before Mil Leave and Veloa’ greater than 6 months kicks in. Maybe 70 of those...Puts you at 676....Furlough mitigation in the form of reduced bid block/reduced reserve block knocks off another 30 maybe....646 is your number
Except they plan for Summer 2021 not November 2020....
So again, we don’t know.
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05-26-2020 | 10:19 PM
#172
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If a fleet decision has been made which will be the 2 step draw-down of the Airbus then expect a large Airbus reduction bid with no additions effective 10/01/2020. It will leave about 220 Airbus pilots total...To operate the 18 jets that are flying
05-26-2020 | 10:26 PM
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They send out a big stack of notices with expected return dates and then meter the furloughs to their liking
05-26-2020 | 10:28 PM
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Thanks. That’s what a lot of us who were not around for the last furlough were wondering. How it worked last time...
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05-26-2020 | 10:55 PM
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Lots of doom and gloom, the truth is we all need to breath and wait for what the end of june looks like if we are back to 1mil people a day in TSA numbers we maybe well be back to 80%-85% by new year. Nobody knows and people are feeding the worst case scenario here and it’s legit but there is as good of an argument that thinks start looking up. Plan for worst hope for best but the reality is this models being put out here are as accurate now as covid models so yes the union really can’t give an answer nor can your stockbroker or fortune teller hang in there
05-26-2020 | 10:59 PM
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Except there will be no PBS but you already knew that.....And single fleet efficiency as a percentage of whole for the Airbus is only 3% and you already knew that. Fortunately we will have no super stars flying vsa/premium which will be a large offset and both prevent furloughs to begin with, shorten the length of furloughs individually and bring back all furloughs as a group sooner...Last time around I believe the longest involuntary furloughs ran 1100 days...plus or minus
05-26-2020 | 11:00 PM
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05-26-2020 | 11:08 PM
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We shall see. This bid is due to cancel and the next one will come out right after it does.....I think the training churn created by this current bid probably drove them towards a single fleet.....They absolutely despise having to pay to train pilots...They only want to train you once.....
05-27-2020 | 12:59 AM
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Except there will be no PBS but you already knew that.....And single fleet efficiency as a percentage of whole for the Airbus is only 3% and you already knew that. Fortunately we will have no super stars flying vsa/premium which will be a large offset and both prevent furloughs to begin with, shorten the length of furloughs individually and bring back all furloughs as a group sooner...Last time around I believe the longest involuntary furloughs ran 1100 days...plus or minus
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