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05-26-2020 | 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by NewGuy01

By bid blocks are they saying that will be the number of lines for November?

Yes, anticipated number of lines... everyone on both sides have known these numbers for a while.

05-26-2020 | 05:19 PM

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I already gave those numbers... it’s not pretty

It's just under 1400 lines. Add in Ltd, Mngmt, OFL and RSVs and it's above 1500-1600. Probably close to 2000 pilots needed on the seniority list. But that's for November.

05-26-2020 | 05:23 PM

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It's just under 1400 lines. Add in Ltd, Mngmt, OFL and RSVs and it's above 1500-1600. Probably close to 2000 pilots needed on the seniority list. But that's for November.

I said we would need 1500-1600 active pilots....

05-26-2020 | 05:28 PM

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I said we would need 1500-1600 active pilots....

That's low. OFL and RSV puts us over your number.

05-26-2020 | 05:34 PM

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That's low. OFL and RSV puts us over your number.

A little but those are best case scheduling numbers with 75 hour lines. If you use 85 hours and things don’t snap back as fast as the company is anticipating, they are a little fat!

05-26-2020 | 05:38 PM

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Never mind

05-26-2020 | 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ELAC321

It's just under 1400 lines. Add in Ltd, Mngmt, OFL and RSVs and it's above 1500-1600. Probably close to 2000 pilots needed on the seniority list. But that's for November.

So 1400 lines would not equal 2800 pilots?

05-26-2020 | 09:35 PM

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So 1400 lines would not equal 2800 pilots?

Only roughly 700 lines in November according to the bid

05-26-2020 | 09:37 PM

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So 1400 lines would not equal 2800 pilots?

692 total lines.... he multiplied by two for CA/FO

I have heard multiple times by people that should know, that we need about 1600 pilots to fly the 2020 fall schedule. The Good news is we need 2385 to fly the summer 2021 schedule... Well it’s definitely not good but way better then 1600.

05-26-2020 | 10:03 PM

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Historically, we have had about 3 pilots per bid block on the BPL’s.... Nov 2020 should require no less then 2000 and no more than 2200 pilots on the BPL’s....Go with 2100, from the 3096 total cut 200 for LTD, Mngmnt etc....Gives you 2896..Maybe 50 retirements and it goes to 2846....Subtract the 2100 and 746 is the starting number before Mil Leave and Veloa’ greater than 6 months kicks in. Maybe 70 of those...Puts you at 676....Furlough mitigation in the form of reduced bid block/reduced reserve block knocks off another 30 maybe....646 is your number