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Old 07-24-2020, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by KingAirPIC View Post
This is true. It definitely played a roll in my decision making.
Thank you sincerely for taking us junior folks into consideration. My wife and kid thank you as well!
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Old 07-24-2020, 08:35 PM
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Sorry to burst your bubble but nobody did this to save your jobs. This is still the same pilot group that wouldn't give up second step for a year to save furloughs last time.
Was not even part of why we furloughed last time. We offered all the contractual savings they asked for. Turns out they were determined to reduce body count. Made the leadership look good to Wall St. They were well rewarded. Wall street gushed about how tough Alaska Airlines was on cost controls and how forward thinking they were...
That said this pilot group is fairly selfish and always has been. Many of us took long, unpaid leaves to try and help. Of course we all got screwed coming back to work.....We likely will face a contract gutting excursion in trade for furloughs next spring. I am not interested.
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Old 07-24-2020, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 9mikemike View Post
Was not even part of why we furloughed last time. We offered all the contractual savings they asked for. Turns out they were determined to reduce body count. Made the leadership look good to Wall St. They were well rewarded. Wall street gushed about how tough Alaska Airlines was on cost controls and how forward thinking they were...
That said this pilot group is fairly selfish and always has been. Many of us took long, unpaid leaves to try and help. Of course we all got screwed coming back to work.....We likely will face a contract gutting excursion in trade for furloughs next spring. I am not interested.
How do you figure we’ll likely face a contract gutting excursion next spring? Where did whet your crystal ball?
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Old 07-24-2020, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 9mikemike View Post
Was not even part of why we furloughed last time. We offered all the contractual savings they asked for. Turns out they were determined to reduce body count. Made the leadership look good to Wall St. They were well rewarded. Wall street gushed about how tough Alaska Airlines was on cost controls and how forward thinking they were...
That said this pilot group is fairly selfish and always has been. Many of us took long, unpaid leaves to try and help. Of course we all got screwed coming back to work.....We likely will face a contract gutting excursion in trade for furloughs next spring. I am not interested.
Theres not much there to gut.
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Old 07-24-2020, 10:23 PM
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How do you figure we’ll likely face a contract gutting excursion next spring? Where did whet your crystal ball?
Anyone keep an eye on the state of the industry knows that we could face some real tough times next year. If anything he's just considering the probability of the industry taking a second nosedive next year. If that were to be the case we'd most likely be facing a very tough set of choices. Presently the recovery is stalled.

Hopefully the industry will recover steadily over the next few years. I think we'd all be safe from doom and gloom if that were the case.
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Old 07-31-2020, 11:32 PM
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More evidence of where Alaska thinks the business is headed. 2600 of the 6000 Alaska flight attendants got a WARN notice tonight.
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Old 08-01-2020, 04:41 AM
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More evidence of where Alaska thinks the business is headed. 2600 of the 6000 Alaska flight attendants got a WARN notice tonight.
Almost the exact percentage of pilots that signed up for the EILs and other programs. Too bad only 30 percent of the pilot group got what they asked for. I'm afraid management were a little too conservative with the leaves.
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Old 08-01-2020, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 9mikemike View Post
More evidence of where Alaska thinks the business is headed. 2600 of the 6000 Alaska flight attendants got a WARN notice tonight.
No surprise. But they can bring them back pretty quickly and cheaply.
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Old 08-01-2020, 09:02 AM
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They will not furlough that many FAs since they have 200 taking early outs and another 2700 have signed up for various leave programs. The company has until August 7 to award them. There will undoubtedly and unfortunately be FA furloughs, but definitely not 2600.
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Old 08-08-2020, 12:04 AM
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Tonight they delayed the awarding of FA leaves....To up the furlough number brought on by a last minute reduction in flying for 4th quarter 2020/1st quarter 2021....that is the down low
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