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09-12-2020 | 02:43 PM

#131

ELAC321

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Originally Posted by greatlake

I think the single fleet makes us very attractive to Southwest.

And what would they do with Horizon?

09-12-2020 | 03:06 PM

#132

greatlake

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Originally Posted by ELAC321

And what would they do with Horizon?

Sell to Skywest or spin it off as it's own company and have them do the inter-Alaska flying.

09-12-2020 | 03:35 PM

#133

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Originally Posted by greatlake

I think the single fleet makes us very attractive to Southwest.

Pops some popcorn for landings on contaminated runways in the state of Alaska 40 knots over ref.

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09-12-2020 | 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 9mikemike

With the airline business essentially”dead in the water” growth is no longer part of anyone’s plan. Labor Day 2024 will likely see the airline business back to 2019 levels. We will likely be single-fleet by that time. Paying down debt will be the focus so that we can survive the follow-on recession that will show up in 2026. Could be another lost decade in the making

thats a bit draconian... 2024.. why not just say 2065. Nobody knows. Keep in kind we don’t need to get to 2019 levels. Within 25% of 2019, and we hit 45% sept 4. My guess is 65% by next summer if not better. Long and slow but steady.

09-12-2020 | 06:07 PM

#135

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Originally Posted by Elismcpikle

Heard the flows for AA wholly owned is going to be 50 years. Came from a friend of a friend’s FA mechanic lover’s cousin three times removed.

09-12-2020 | 10:21 PM

#136

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Hmmm....45% this year, 50-65% next year, 75-80% in 2023 which would put us at 100% in 2024. It is the math that the Anglers are using to formulate their business plan. It certainly was not my idea. They are saying 12-20 months after a vaccination/ therapy protocol to get leisure travel back and another 18-24 months beyond that for business travel....Draconian would be furloughing 500 pilots in the fall of 2021

09-13-2020 | 07:03 AM

#137

rickair7777

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Originally Posted by LonesomeSky

The pilots will be begging for a Bay Area 737 co-base soon: SFO, SJC, Oak, and SFO... If you keep your camper truck parked on a side street in Fruitvale you should be able to make that 2 hour reserve call out no matter which airport they send you to.

You'd need a 6-hour callout.

09-13-2020 | 12:03 PM

#138

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Not really. Reserves only cover the primary airport in a co-terminal.

09-13-2020 | 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by rmcbear08

Any insight as to why? On the webcast today they kept talking about “recapturing the California market.” Seems counterintuitive to then close a base in a major California city. Why not just keep it with 73s? Closing SFO is the biggest head-scratcher to me, but then again I don’t have access to all the information.

CA is important to AS, it is vital to our OneWorld strategy. SFO is tricky, simply put many small bases have a significant cost in staffing. Small bases in particular have huge cost in over manning and RSV coverage. We want to have the most productive pilot group in the industry, they feel we get there with fewer bases.

09-13-2020 | 09:33 PM

#140

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Originally Posted by ELAC321

And what would they do with Horizon?

Way to early to tell. LUV, most likely would pay the penalty to Skywest and turn out the lights at QX. An Alaska Blue merger, my guess is management would like to modify JetBlue scope and keep the EJets running seats.