Sorry to burst your bubble but nobody did this to save your jobs. This is still the same pilot group that wouldn't give up second step for a year to save furloughs last time.

A top of scale captain is going to make $186,000/year (268*50*12+about 100 hours of vacation or more) over the next 2 years. They are still going to have they're medical paid, travel benefits, jump seating on Alaska and avoid having to operate in a chaotic mess of an operating environment. All for being on a 45-day callout for the company.

This is an example of how these kinds of deals need to be structured in order to be successful; everybody acting in their own self-interest results in the desired outcome. I have historically been critical of our MEC, but I have to hand it to the NC...they structured this perfectly. If only our government leaders could learn this lesson.

Glad everybody that wants to stay is staying.

 

When will we see the effective Base Position Lists?

 

Probably with the next position bid.

 

Then we will find out who will be sitting red eye reserve out of state. I'm grateful to be employed but just wish I could have been one of the lucky ones on 24 month leave.

 

Fist off, my hat's off to our union for a fine job. In regards to senior pilots helping junior pilots out especially when $$$ are involved, that's just wishful thinking. 99% of those who took advantage acted on their self interest. ^^^ hit the nail on the head.

 

Somewhat correct but I think for some folks it was easier to leave some money on the table knowing it might help someone who really NEEDED to keep their job. Any major pilot who's had a few years *should* be in a position to take a couple years off without major financial consequences if necessary, but new-hires right out of regionals/135/91 are not all in that position yet.

 

Spot on. Most guys that have been at this a while have a healthy cushion. I took 6 mo. and could easily take 2 years if offered. I'm not rich like Carlsbad, OZ, and MEA, but I'm doing ok. I said a while ago I was hoping for the best, but feared we could layoff 1000-2000 pilots at AA. Glad to hear Alaska offered a good deal and guys took it. Still optimistic we can avoid furloughs at AA, but not looking good.

 

This is true. It definitely played a roll in my decision making.

 

No. It is not the same pilot group. Also, a pay reduction never guarantees they won’t furlough anyway because that doesn’t solve the overstaffing problem. A negotiated staffing reduction (EIL) does because it addresses cash flow and staffing! I wasn’t here then, but I’m not going to judge the group for declining the pay cut.

 

Pay cuts save nothing! This EIL stuff was the best solution for all in this scenario. If PAX numbers won’t improve than furloughs may still be on the table but it will be a No for me on any pay cut, since they will not prevent furloughs, at that point.