Leave and Early Out Numbers
#21
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2013
Posts: 128
Freakin' rad news! To all those senior to me, which is damn near everyone, thank you. Because of those taking an inventive line, I and many others get to keep our jobs. This shows me that this pilot group actually gives a damn about one another. Great job to all our union volunteers!
A top of scale captain is going to make $186,000/year (268*50*12+about 100 hours of vacation or more) over the next 2 years. They are still going to have they're medical paid, travel benefits, jump seating on Alaska and avoid having to operate in a chaotic mess of an operating environment. All for being on a 45-day callout for the company.
This is an example of how these kinds of deals need to be structured in order to be successful; everybody acting in their own self-interest results in the desired outcome. I have historically been critical of our MEC, but I have to hand it to the NC...they structured this perfectly. If only our government leaders could learn this lesson.
Glad everybody that wants to stay is staying.
#25
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2016
Position: 737 tiller master
Posts: 288
Sorry to burst your bubble but nobody did this to save your jobs. This is still the same pilot group that wouldn't give up second step for a year to save furloughs last time.
A top of scale captain is going to make $186,000/year (268*50*12+about 100 hours of vacation or more) over the next 2 years. They are still going to have they're medical paid, travel benefits, jump seating on Alaska and avoid having to operate in a chaotic mess of an operating environment. All for being on a 45-day callout for the company.
This is an example of how these kinds of deals need to be structured in order to be successful; everybody acting in their own self-interest results in the desired outcome. I have historically been critical of our MEC, but I have to hand it to the NC...they structured this perfectly. If only our government leaders could learn this lesson.
Glad everybody that wants to stay is staying.
A top of scale captain is going to make $186,000/year (268*50*12+about 100 hours of vacation or more) over the next 2 years. They are still going to have they're medical paid, travel benefits, jump seating on Alaska and avoid having to operate in a chaotic mess of an operating environment. All for being on a 45-day callout for the company.
This is an example of how these kinds of deals need to be structured in order to be successful; everybody acting in their own self-interest results in the desired outcome. I have historically been critical of our MEC, but I have to hand it to the NC...they structured this perfectly. If only our government leaders could learn this lesson.
Glad everybody that wants to stay is staying.
#26
Somewhat correct but I think for some folks it was easier to leave some money on the table knowing it might help someone who really NEEDED to keep their job. Any major pilot who's had a few years *should* be in a position to take a couple years off without major financial consequences if necessary, but new-hires right out of regionals/135/91 are not all in that position yet.
#27
Somewhat correct but I think for some folks it was easier to leave some money on the table knowing it might help someone who really NEEDED to keep their job. Any major pilot who's had a few years *should* be in a position to take a couple years off without major financial consequences if necessary, but new-hires right out of regionals/135/91 are not all in that position yet.
#28
Somewhat correct but I think for some folks it was easier to leave some money on the table knowing it might help someone who really NEEDED to keep their job. Any major pilot who's had a few years *should* be in a position to take a couple years off without major financial consequences if necessary, but new-hires right out of regionals/135/91 are not all in that position yet.
This is true. It definitely played a roll in my decision making.
#29
On Reserve
Joined APC: Mar 2009
Posts: 18
No. It is not the same pilot group. Also, a pay reduction never guarantees they won’t furlough anyway because that doesn’t solve the overstaffing problem. A negotiated staffing reduction (EIL) does because it addresses cash flow and staffing! I wasn’t here then, but I’m not going to judge the group for declining the pay cut.
#30
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2010
Position: A320 CA
Posts: 229
Pay cuts save nothing! This EIL stuff was the best solution for all in this scenario. If PAX numbers won’t improve than furloughs may still be on the table but it will be a No for me on any pay cut, since they will not prevent furloughs, at that point.
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