Additional Max Order Rumored
12-16-2021 | 09:45 AM
#392
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Functional Check Flight:A Functional Check Flight is a description normally given to a non revenue flight which has the sole purpose of checking for the correct airborne function of certain aircraft systems.
These flights can be conducted for a number of reasons, such as:
after a single significant maintenance action.
after a major Base Maintenance Check such as a 'C' Check or a 'D' Check
in association with requirements for the acceptance or change of possession of an aircraft;
as required according to organization, local, state regulations.
The term does not include formal test flights carried out by trained test pilots employed by an aircraft manufacturer or National Aviation Authority (NAA) for purposes such as customer acceptance of new aircraft or the renewal of a Certificate of Airworthiness, or any type of flight requiring trained test pilots.
These flights can be conducted for a number of reasons, such as:
after a single significant maintenance action.
after a major Base Maintenance Check such as a 'C' Check or a 'D' Check
in association with requirements for the acceptance or change of possession of an aircraft;
as required according to organization, local, state regulations.
The term does not include formal test flights carried out by trained test pilots employed by an aircraft manufacturer or National Aviation Authority (NAA) for purposes such as customer acceptance of new aircraft or the renewal of a Certificate of Airworthiness, or any type of flight requiring trained test pilots.
12-16-2021 | 10:17 AM
#393
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From: Engines Turn or People Swim
FCF are normally conducted by specially trained airmen, although I don't think that's a regulatory requirement. I think it's "best practice" today, but I certainly did a few FCF's as a junior (reserve) line puke many years ago.
12-22-2021 | 06:09 PM
#396
Mmmm wine
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From: The Jet
I never understood this one. Do you know where the 450-550 club resides? Your TD and FCF department, that’s where. It’s multi day events and an override that gets you there, and guys are cleaning up behind the scenes. Yet, clowns on here are worried about some regular line guy picking up a little extra scratch for Christmas? Really. I think maybe there are 4-8 guys pushing five outside of the club and those poor saps are working every day and I mean every day. I mean if they want it that bad or need it that bad, let them have it. That is no life.
This also is true among the Check Airman and FCF ranks. Are there crapheads? Sure, but that is every department within the company. It is very very very easy to make money in these departments because there is a ton of work and not enough people. The real kicker? We can't pick up any trips if we are in the training department. So all those P2P trades in open time, we can't pick those up to go actually fly the line (as we should do now and then). Then we have to read about how there are all these cancelations due to lack of crews for flights when we actually might want to go fly the line a trip or two a month to stay proficient. Is there money to be made in these departments? Yes! There is a pay override and we get paid more for being in these roles. Are we taking money away from you and other line pilots? Absolutely not. Apply to be in one of these departments...
Picking up premium as a line pilot is considerably different than doing extra work in the training department. Videos have to be made, changes to flows, procedures, manuals etc. all have to be tested and evaluated. Courseware has to be checked for accuracy and fluidity, all the training events are flown and triple checked by the training department before a script gets final approval and you get checked on it. There is a lot more to that department than simply picking up premium and stacking a fat paycheck.
12-23-2021 | 02:27 PM
#398
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I am in the training department and I take a bit of offense to this. We are understaffed and overworked like everyone else. The TD is small and works almost like a mom and pop company instead of a multi thousand pilot group airline. If somebody calls in sick we pick up the slack, we help each other if somebody needs a day off etc. There is always more work than people, but if we just said F it and didn't pick up the slack, it doesn't hurt the company, it screws over a friend and colleague and in the end, hurts the pilot group as every single pilot goes through the department multiple times a year.
This also is true among the Check Airman and FCF ranks. Are there crapheads? Sure, but that is every department within the company. It is very very very easy to make money in these departments because there is a ton of work and not enough people. The real kicker? We can't pick up any trips if we are in the training department. So all those P2P trades in open time, we can't pick those up to go actually fly the line (as we should do now and then). Then we have to read about how there are all these cancelations due to lack of crews for flights when we actually might want to go fly the line a trip or two a month to stay proficient. Is there money to be made in these departments? Yes! There is a pay override and we get paid more for being in these roles. Are we taking money away from you and other line pilots? Absolutely not. Apply to be in one of these departments...
Picking up premium as a line pilot is considerably different than doing extra work in the training department. Videos have to be made, changes to flows, procedures, manuals etc. all have to be tested and evaluated. Courseware has to be checked for accuracy and fluidity, all the training events are flown and triple checked by the training department before a script gets final approval and you get checked on it. There is a lot more to that department than simply picking up premium and stacking a fat paycheck.
This also is true among the Check Airman and FCF ranks. Are there crapheads? Sure, but that is every department within the company. It is very very very easy to make money in these departments because there is a ton of work and not enough people. The real kicker? We can't pick up any trips if we are in the training department. So all those P2P trades in open time, we can't pick those up to go actually fly the line (as we should do now and then). Then we have to read about how there are all these cancelations due to lack of crews for flights when we actually might want to go fly the line a trip or two a month to stay proficient. Is there money to be made in these departments? Yes! There is a pay override and we get paid more for being in these roles. Are we taking money away from you and other line pilots? Absolutely not. Apply to be in one of these departments...
Picking up premium as a line pilot is considerably different than doing extra work in the training department. Videos have to be made, changes to flows, procedures, manuals etc. all have to be tested and evaluated. Courseware has to be checked for accuracy and fluidity, all the training events are flown and triple checked by the training department before a script gets final approval and you get checked on it. There is a lot more to that department than simply picking up premium and stacking a fat paycheck.
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12-24-2021 | 08:20 AM
#399
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I am in the training department and I take a bit of offense to this. We are understaffed and overworked like everyone else. The TD is small and works almost like a mom and pop company instead of a multi thousand pilot group airline. If somebody calls in sick we pick up the slack, we help each other if somebody needs a day off etc. There is always more work than people, but if we just said F it and didn't pick up the slack, it doesn't hurt the company, it screws over a friend and colleague and in the end, hurts the pilot group as every single pilot goes through the department multiple times a year..
03-24-2022 | 04:17 AM
#400
Covfefe
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https://investor.alaskaair.com/node/32811/html
oh man. Was OTZ right?
Operating a single, more efficient fleet: Today, the company will share plans to accelerate the transition of its fleet of 300+ aircraft to all-Boeing 737 for its mainline operations and all-Embraer E175 jets for regional, by the end of 2023. Consistent with Alaska’s low-cost high productivity mindset, these transitions are expected to drive significant economic benefits. As the fleet grows to 400 aircraft by mid-decade, these will manifest through operational simplicity, flexibility and scalability, better fuel efficiency and reduced maintenance costs. The company is also growing cargo business operations by converting two passenger 737-800s to freighters, bringing the total freighter fleet to five.
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