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Old 02-23-2022 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by proprunnner
We can complete with anyone, we can chip away at almost any transcontinental pairing we want, we grow Hawaii where we will see fit. .
I mean except: LAX-JFK, LAX-BOS, SJC-JFK, LAX-MCO, LAX-ORD. OAK-HNK/OGG
but I mean...thats only a few routes we cut last year. No biggie[/QUOTE]

With aircraft in long storage, AS deployed aircraft on routes that would generate the best margins, not the sexiest city pairings. As aircraft are all brought back out and new Max aircraft arrive, AS will deployed into many new markets along with increasing frequency to markets that show robust demand. JFK-LAX was a node to AAL and OneWorld. AS could make money on all the above routes, but they could make more in others…. We are always about making more. Remember, we are a smaller airline, with only so many jets, those jets will be used in markets that produce the highest yields…. This is a good thing and should not be difficult to understand. Just because two big cities are paired together, that doesn’t necessarily equate to the best margin, or the best use of assets…., sometimes it works best for you, makes the most sense to you, but not so great for yields.

Last year was a weird year for almost every airline, wouldn’t you say🤔 And what were our margins compared to every other airline 🤔🤔

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Old 02-23-2022 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Av8rRr
I’m so confused. Hawaiian, and then WN is supposedly a for sure thing. Now we wait on UAL. Then recently Alaska is in the drivers seat. Which one is it? Honestly asking, and would love to know.
I don’t see AS merging with UA, I do see UA decisions over the next few months dictating this next round of consolidation.

This is not hard or difficult to understand, but for many of you a 30 degree bank and maintaining altitude is almost impossible, balancing a checkbook….impossible!

And yes, the HA merger has died with BT stepping down as AS’s COTB

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Old 02-23-2022 | 12:27 PM
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Filler......
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Old 02-23-2022 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
With aircraft in long storage, AS deployed aircraft on routes that would generate the best margins, not the sexiest city pairings. As aircraft are all brought back out and new Max aircraft arrive, AS will deployed into many new markets along with increasing frequency to markets that show robust demand. JFK-LAX was a node to AAL and OneWorld. AS could make money on all the above routes, but they could make more in others…. We are always about making more. Remember, we are a smaller airline, with only so many jets, those jets will be used in markets that produce the highest yields…. This is a good thing and should not be difficult to understand. Just because two big cities are paired together, that doesn’t necessarily equate to the best margin, or the best use of assets…., sometimes it works best for you, makes the most sense to you, but not so great for yields.

Last year was a weird year for almost every airline, wouldn’t you say🤔 And what were our margins compared to every other airline? 🤔🤔
That was the effect of the "Alaska Discount".
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Old 02-23-2022 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
I don’t see AS merging with UA, I do see UA decisions over the next few months dictating this next round of consolidation.

This is not hard or difficult to understand, but for many of you a 30 degree bank and maintaining altitude is almost impossible, balancing a checkbook….impossible!

And yes, the HA merger has died with BT stepping down as AS’s COTB

Now you’re throwing out insults about how your coworkers fly airplanes?

Please elaborate.


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Old 02-23-2022 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
I don’t see AS merging with UA, I do see UA decisions over the next few months dictating this next round of consolidation.

This is not hard or difficult to understand, but for many of you a 30 degree bank and maintaining altitude is almost impossible, balancing a checkbook….impossible!

And yes, the HA merger has died with BT stepping down as AS’s COTB
So UAL wants to buy B6, but if they don’t AS will merge with B6?
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Old 02-23-2022 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
"but for many of you a 30 degree bank and maintaining altitude is almost impossible, balancing a checkbook….impossible!
We train to proficiency at this airline...
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Old 02-23-2022 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by All Bizniz
That was the effect of the "Alaska Discount".

Dude, that whole thing is a lie. As much as management would love us to believe we will bankrupt the airline if we have a good contract, it just isn’t true. If we were to make significant gains in our compensation our company would still have some of, if not you he best margins in the industry. So no, the “Alaska discount” contributed very little to our profit margins.
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Old 02-23-2022 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by VanDriver208
We train to proficiency at this airline...
yes we are 😂😉
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Old 02-23-2022 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
yes we are 😂😉
So anybody else think if this is moving really fast we see something at the investor day spring 👀
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