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Old 02-22-2022 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
I think SK and UAL may actually play the most significant role in our independence over the next few months. SWA is tight and SK has shown himself to be super aggressive with access to significant liquidity. I think this will churn for a bit. As the legacy airlines gain visibility of Q3, hammers are likely to drop.
Sorry who is SK? And do you think UAL it's going to make a push for B6?
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Old 02-22-2022 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by greatlake
Sorry who is SK? And do you think UAL it's going to make a push for B6?
Scott Kirby I’m guessing but that’s not happening
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Old 02-22-2022 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
I think SK and UAL may actually play the most significant role in our independence over the next few months. SWA is tight and SK has shown himself to be super aggressive with access to significant liquidity. I think this will churn for a bit. As the legacy airlines gain visibility of Q3, hammers are likely to drop.
That's an interesting idea. No matter who makes the move, if one party is interested in merging with AS then all parties become interested. A bidding war begins. Alaska fits nicely into a lot of airlines networks: UAL, AA, SWA, and B6. It could be anyone.

Or, it could be no one. The Russia/Ukraine mess could drive record high oil prices and/or Covid could create a truly deadly variant. Or, International travel doesn't come back and the big airlines bleed indefinitely. There are many unknowns.

In aviation, whenever it seems like the tide has turned and the pilots are in a winning position, the gods send down a crushing blow, a blow harder than all previous blows. The pilot shortage is like the lost city of gold. That's why we need to lock in a great contract this time around. Who knows what will happen.
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Old 02-22-2022 | 04:32 PM
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Agree ^^^^
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Old 02-22-2022 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by LonesomeSky
That's an interesting idea. No matter who makes the move, if one party is interested in merging with AS then all parties become interested. A bidding war begins. Alaska fits nicely into a lot of airlines networks: UAL, AA, SWA, and B6. It could be anyone.

Or, it could be no one. The Russia/Ukraine mess could drive record high oil prices and/or Covid could create a truly deadly variant. Or, International travel doesn't come back and the big airlines bleed indefinitely. There are many unknowns.

In aviation, whenever it seems like the tide has turned and the pilots are in a winning position, the gods send down a crushing blow, a blow harder than all previous blows. The pilot shortage is like the lost city of gold. That's why we need to lock in a great contract this time around. Who knows what will happen.

Should chisel this in stone. It's the 11th commandment. "Thou shalt not celebrate prematurely lest the gods of aviation misfortune reach down and smite thee."

True story. Read it at the Elegante.
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Old 02-22-2022 | 06:14 PM
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How people take OTZ seriously is beyond me. I'd be as rich as he is if I could invest in the inverse of every prediction he's made.
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Old 02-22-2022 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ELAC321
How people take OTZ seriously is beyond me. I'd be as rich as he is if I could invest in the inverse of every prediction he's made.
"Iwo Jima?! She's got the straight dope!"

OTZ is the Tokyo Rose of APC

https://youtu.be/lWgnoDdJFWg

Contract 2020. See you all at the picket line on April 1sr.
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Old 02-22-2022 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by All Bizniz
Maybe that's why he decided to exit gracefully?

The board probaly told him that it will either be WN or JB, and that a HA merger is DOA..

Yeah ‘cuz the board holds us pilots in such high esteem they give so many F’s about what we think.

No wait. Actually they only care about OTZ. They tell him stuff because he’s so amazing.

Oh wait…. that sounds like malarkey too.


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Old 02-22-2022 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
Should chisel this in stone. It's the 11th commandment. "Thou shalt not celebrate prematurely lest the gods of aviation misfortune reach down and smite thee."

True story. Read it at the Elegante.

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Old 02-22-2022 | 09:00 PM
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We can complete with anyone, we can chip away at almost any transcontinental pairing we want, we grow Hawaii where we will see fit. .[/QUOTE]

I mean except: LAX-JFK, LAX-BOS, SJC-JFK, LAX-MCO, LAX-ORD. OAK-HNK/OGG
but I mean...thats only a few routes we cut last year. No biggie
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