Spirit and Frontier… just the beginning
#341
Banned
Joined: Apr 2008
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Outlook for clear skies and smooth sailing. No merger anywhere in the forecast. Amen. Alaska will continue to do what they have always done. It works, they are comfortable with it and it is durable. Returning to single fleet is like hiring 500 pilots. Competing in a volatile furl market with only NEO/MAX creates higher profitability than flights flown…More pilots not needed. 190 seats instead of 150 seats is again many pilots not needed. The ability to profitably throttle expansion back to idle and coast is exceptionally durable. Alaska does not need or want to ever do any East coast flying or East coast to mid con flying….They do not want or need to have a hub off of the West coast. They make staggering profits of the CC program…Profitability that requires no pilots or airplanes. The cost for another airline to attempt a hostile take over is far beyond the value they would gain. Seattle is not that important to anyones operation except Alaskas. The four Major airlines in the country are not interested in the merger game. JetBlue does not have the horsepower to attempt a merger and Alaska has zero interest in them or their type of operation. Spirit/Frontier will be years in the process of cleaning up the mess they have created. Sun Country-not a chance. It brings nothing….Hawaiian-not a chance. Alaska has no use for what they are. And no desire to again spend hundreds of millions getting rid of an entire Airline worth of airplanes…..
If anyone at Alaska is foolish enough to be hanging on hoping for a mythical merjer….Sad times ahead for them.
If anyone at Alaska is foolish enough to be hanging on hoping for a mythical merjer….Sad times ahead for them.
#342
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Nov 2019
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24 years of “being bought or buying”…..Understanding the language that Alaska speaks with. Actually listening to the answers given to operational and growth questions. Disregarding 100% of what the “10% club” have to say. Disregarding 100% what the “training department”and “senior check-airman” have to say. Disregarding 100% of what the “airline analysts and bloggers” have to say. Other than that. I have no more or less info than the next guy. There have been two mergers…30 years apart..viewed both times by Alaska Airlines leadership as necessary but regrettable.
#343
Line Holder
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 579
Likes: 30
Outlook for clear skies and smooth sailing. No merger anywhere in the forecast. Amen. Alaska will continue to do what they have always done. It works, they are comfortable with it and it is durable. Returning to single fleet is like hiring 500 pilots. Competing in a volatile furl market with only NEO/MAX creates higher profitability than flights flown…More pilots not needed. 190 seats instead of 150 seats is again many pilots not needed. The ability to profitably throttle expansion back to idle and coast is exceptionally durable. Alaska does not need or want to ever do any East coast flying or East coast to mid con flying….They do not want or need to have a hub off of the West coast. They make staggering profits of the CC program…Profitability that requires no pilots or airplanes. The cost for another airline to attempt a hostile take over is far beyond the value they would gain. Seattle is not that important to anyones operation except Alaskas. The four Major airlines in the country are not interested in the merger game. JetBlue does not have the horsepower to attempt a merger and Alaska has zero interest in them or their type of operation. Spirit/Frontier will be years in the process of cleaning up the mess they have created. Sun Country-not a chance. It brings nothing….Hawaiian-not a chance. Alaska has no use for what they are. And no desire to again spend hundreds of millions getting rid of an entire Airline worth of airplanes…..
If anyone at Alaska is foolish enough to be hanging on hoping for a mythical merjer….Sad times ahead for them.
If anyone at Alaska is foolish enough to be hanging on hoping for a mythical merjer….Sad times ahead for them.
#345
Line Holder
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 700
Likes: 0
Outlook for clear skies and smooth sailing. No merger anywhere in the forecast. Amen. Alaska will continue to do what they have always done. It works, they are comfortable with it and it is durable. Returning to single fleet is like hiring 500 pilots. Competing in a volatile furl market with only NEO/MAX creates higher profitability than flights flown…More pilots not needed. 190 seats instead of 150 seats is again many pilots not needed. The ability to profitably throttle expansion back to idle and coast is exceptionally durable. Alaska does not need or want to ever do any East coast flying or East coast to mid con flying….They do not want or need to have a hub off of the West coast. They make staggering profits of the CC program…Profitability that requires no pilots or airplanes. The cost for another airline to attempt a hostile take over is far beyond the value they would gain. Seattle is not that important to anyones operation except Alaskas. The four Major airlines in the country are not interested in the merger game. JetBlue does not have the horsepower to attempt a merger and Alaska has zero interest in them or their type of operation. Spirit/Frontier will be years in the process of cleaning up the mess they have created. Sun Country-not a chance. It brings nothing….Hawaiian-not a chance. Alaska has no use for what they are. And no desire to again spend hundreds of millions getting rid of an entire Airline worth of airplanes…..
If anyone at Alaska is foolish enough to be hanging on hoping for a mythical merjer….Sad times ahead for them.
If anyone at Alaska is foolish enough to be hanging on hoping for a mythical merjer….Sad times ahead for them.
#347
Prime Minister/Moderator

Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 44,905
Likes: 691
From: Engines Turn or People Swim
Recent management and board shenanigans hint that the merger clock is a few minutes closer to midnight than it normally is.
#348
Prime Minister/Moderator

Joined: Jan 2006
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From: Engines Turn or People Swim
Reminds me of a Poli sci professor asking the class how many think that the US will be here forever (or at least till the end of humankind).....almost everyone raises their hand, then he shows a chart basically showing that 98% of the known "nations" of the world that have ever existed, cease to exist. How many Romans thought they had the world by the shorthairs? Everything has a first and last time.
Same reason Iranian people and society have existed continuously for millennia... hard to dig them out from behind the Zagros mountains. North America, even more so.
The Roman Empire actually existed in some form, name at least, until the late 18th century... it actually slightly overlapped the foundation of the USA.
#349
US will likely be around in some form (perhaps by another name) for a very long time. We have vast resources and very wide moats... and they'll seem even wider when your naval forces are getting picked off by attack submarines. If push comes to shove, imagine what a resistance/insurgent movement would look like in the inter-mountain west, deep south, Texas, etc That has held true through the revolutionary war, civil war, both world wars, and the cold war. Closest we came was brits trying again in 1812.... unless you count Hitler's attempt to talk Mexico into invading the US 
Same reason Iranian people and society have existed continuously for millennia... hard to dig them out from behind the Zagros mountains. North America, even more so.
The Roman Empire actually existed in some form, name at least, until the late 18th century... it actually slightly overlapped the foundation of the USA.

Same reason Iranian people and society have existed continuously for millennia... hard to dig them out from behind the Zagros mountains. North America, even more so.
The Roman Empire actually existed in some form, name at least, until the late 18th century... it actually slightly overlapped the foundation of the USA.
#350
There are no mer VX's to buy that would really stave off a bigger fish from buying us this time, especially now with Frontier and Spirit merging.


