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Old 05-05-2022 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by av8or
Yeah…. I hear ya brother…. and I really don’t want this to turn into thread creep here, cause honestly, the amazing thing you need to know about what’s going on here at Alaska in the pilot ranks is that, on April 1st, assuming 9Mike was off work, pretty decent chance he and over 1500 of his Alaska compadres, crossing literally every line of the political/social/gender/geographic/racial spectrum was and is unified in telling management…. “Y’all need to listen up.” So we can all live where we want, vote how we want, support the causes we want, etc. We got hard right wingers, hard left wingers and everything in between here man. And for the vast majority rock solid professionals to share a few hours in the cockpit with. 👍🏻
well, I guess that’s part of my quick reaction to that post, I have always been treated with nothing but with the greatest of professional courtesy when jump-seating or just chewing the fat at a gate. It’s one thing (besides driving to work, ha) that’s always attracted me to Alaska. The crews seem to be some of the best I’ve come across.
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Old 05-05-2022 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by fcoolaiddrinker
This past election cycle divided us like no other in my life. I’m not sure what happened to vote move on and hope whoever wins does a good job? Personally I like every state for different reasons and none of those reasons have anything to do with politics.
100% agree.
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Old 05-05-2022 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
It obviously makes sense, the problem is and always has been the personalities at both HQ's.

Really though it doesn’t make any sense.

No route map overlap actually mean there is no connectivity. Which means you cant functionally move passengers between the networks.

Without a mid continent hub the two airlines would basically continue to operate as two separate route structures effectively eliminating any synergies.


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Old 05-05-2022 | 11:43 AM
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I’m pretty sure they would figure out a way to connect the networks. And there is enough overlap in major coastal cities to make it happen as-is anyway.
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Old 05-05-2022 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
Really though it doesn’t make any sense.

No route map overlap actually mean there is no connectivity. Which means you cant functionally move passengers between the networks.

Without a mid continent hub the two airlines would basically continue to operate as two separate route structures effectively eliminating any synergies.


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I disagree, Both airlines do enough transcon flights to put somebody on either coast, to then catch a flight somewhere else.
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Old 05-05-2022 | 11:59 AM
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Or create a hub in the middle.
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Old 05-05-2022 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by jayme
Or create a hub in the middle.
That would be the logical next step after such a merger. Would anyone expect different?
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Old 05-05-2022 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jayme
Or create a hub in the middle.

MCI or OKC would probably volunteer.

The new entity would be pushing into the SWA league, at that scale things can be made to happen.
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Old 05-05-2022 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 05Duramax
I always thought we were supposed to be Americans first, no matter where you came from. Now it seems whatever state leans towards politics wise you must hate a state or a city because it is different from you politically. I find that absurd. Politics is supposed to be an ideological exercise of debate, not your identity. Now people see themselves as liberal or Republican first. It’s quite clear that post is from someone who watches Fox News nonstop so they get their marching orders to hate Seattle and Portland. Never mind that most people who live in these places are just normal folks going to work everyday. It’s the same people who hate California, forget that the majority of the whole country gets its fresh food from the state. And I would agree, it’s both sides, I just see the vitriol for hating whole swaths of this country and it’s residents seems to be a particularly popular thing in the Tucker Carlson fan base.
I grew up in Portland area, and went to college in Seattle. I weep a little inside every time I see what has become of those once great layover cities. In both of them, our airline has moved out of the city on layovers due to security concerns. Portland had a nice downtown vibe going alive and well in the 90's-00's. Not so much anymore. Seattle also feels much more unsafe than it did a couple of decades ago. Both cities have been wildly mismanaged over the last decade to their own demise. My friends who live in Portland would never consider going downtown now to have fun. Even in Seattle, Amazon has moved some workers out of the city for their own "safety".

It's really sad, because the very people who would love for the public to move to the "city", live in apartments, forget the car and use mass transit, seem to run the cities in such a way that makes all of that untenable for a normal family.
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Old 05-05-2022 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
Really though it doesn’t make any sense.

No route map overlap actually mean there is no connectivity. Which means you cant functionally move passengers between the networks.
No route overlap also means that the DOJ kills off very little in the merger, so the entire revenue benefit of both companies is still intact.

The question though is where is the benefit to Alaska? JetBlue is a bit of a rudderless ship with home markets that are hyper competitive.
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