Alaska General Discussion
01-28-2026 | 08:15 PM
#2102
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in 23 attrition was getting so bad the company gave us a MRA exemption to WN and JetBlue so on 9/1/23 we had the rate schedule that was higher than what was in contract 22. Then in 24 we signed a TA which put a 2 year extension on our current contract but put raises in line with DL And UA so as of 9/1 is the DOS +4 for contract which is when our raises come
TOS is 390.77 in 26 but Im not sure how that plays in with SLI and stuff
sli is out of my hands I just want a banger JCBA
01-28-2026 | 09:00 PM
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From: 737 FO
01-28-2026 | 09:03 PM
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Totally unrealistic Alaska worst case scenario (and again... I don't see ANY WAY that this would actually happen) would be going category and class based on WB, 321NEO (because it's a higher payrate than "737" at most other airlines), 737, and then 717.
In that case, based on todays numbers, you'd have 315 xHAL widebody captains at the top (78 on the freighter, 21 Seattle 787, 39 HNL 787, and 177 HNL 330), followed by 136 xHAL 321NEO captains. Then you'd have (based on the hawaksa merger site) 1757 xAlaska 737 captains, followed by 88 xHAL 717 captains.
On the FO side you'd have 412 xHAL Widebody FOs (70 from the 330F, 36 SEA787, 61 HNL787 and 345 HNL330), followed by 142 321 FOs, then 1596 737 FOs, and finally the 104 717 FOs.
Obviously having a 1991 xAlaska hire being 451 (which on the HAL side is a 2016 hire I think) down the list (or even 315 (2011 I think) down the list if you discount the 321NEO being a difference category than the 737) isn't a realistic thing.
But (unrealistic) worst case... yeah, that's probably it.
In that case, based on todays numbers, you'd have 315 xHAL widebody captains at the top (78 on the freighter, 21 Seattle 787, 39 HNL 787, and 177 HNL 330), followed by 136 xHAL 321NEO captains. Then you'd have (based on the hawaksa merger site) 1757 xAlaska 737 captains, followed by 88 xHAL 717 captains.
On the FO side you'd have 412 xHAL Widebody FOs (70 from the 330F, 36 SEA787, 61 HNL787 and 345 HNL330), followed by 142 321 FOs, then 1596 737 FOs, and finally the 104 717 FOs.
Obviously having a 1991 xAlaska hire being 451 (which on the HAL side is a 2016 hire I think) down the list (or even 315 (2011 I think) down the list if you discount the 321NEO being a difference category than the 737) isn't a realistic thing.
But (unrealistic) worst case... yeah, that's probably it.
01-29-2026 | 09:18 AM
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Switching gears Southwest earnings are out from what I can read
DAL 9.8
UA 7.8
AS 2.8
WN 2
AA 1.4
so 5.5% bonus it looks like
so I think we did it someone else can read WN earrings and confirm but I think we got third
Also re reading the As q4 earrings I didn’t realize the SAN TUSLA was year round what is the connection? It military? Or is there another industry in Tulsa
DAL 9.8
UA 7.8
AS 2.8
WN 2
AA 1.4
so 5.5% bonus it looks like
so I think we did it someone else can read WN earrings and confirm but I think we got third
Also re reading the As q4 earrings I didn’t realize the SAN TUSLA was year round what is the connection? It military? Or is there another industry in Tulsa
01-29-2026 | 09:33 AM
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From: Captain
01-29-2026 | 09:40 AM
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01-29-2026 | 12:28 PM
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For anyone who didn’t watch 5.5% PBP so so we do get third in % profit margin
my other takeaway Shane seems like god damn smart and good dude I hope when Ben steps down he becomes our ceo
also Ben said by 2035 550 planes 41 widebodys not sure how many HA has now but that’s your would assume 24 330 and 17 787
my other takeaway Shane seems like god damn smart and good dude I hope when Ben steps down he becomes our ceo
also Ben said by 2035 550 planes 41 widebodys not sure how many HA has now but that’s your would assume 24 330 and 17 787
01-29-2026 | 12:42 PM
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For anyone who didn’t watch 5.5% PBP so so we do get third in % profit margin
my other takeaway Shane seems like god damn smart and good dude I hope when Ben steps down he becomes our ceo
also Ben said by 2035 550 planes 41 widebodys not sure how many HA has now but that’s your would assume 24 330 and 17 787
my other takeaway Shane seems like god damn smart and good dude I hope when Ben steps down he becomes our ceo
also Ben said by 2035 550 planes 41 widebodys not sure how many HA has now but that’s your would assume 24 330 and 17 787
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