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Old 02-19-2025 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by WarmSandDreams
Do you guys use Flight Crew View for your schedules? A lot of pilots at Hawaiian use this, which involves giving your Flica username and password to them. I'm hoping they don't shut that down, as Flica is pretty miserable to use for trying to figure out what your actual schedule is.
Bye, bye to anyone who is doing this…
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Old 02-19-2025 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by WarmSandDreams
Do you guys use Flight Crew View for your schedules? A lot of pilots at Hawaiian use this, which involves giving your Flica username and password to them. I'm hoping they don't shut that down, as Flica is pretty miserable to use for trying to figure out what your actual schedule is.
They will shut it down if they know about since giving your user name and password to a third party is a violation of the cyber security rules.
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Old 02-19-2025 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by airb320
Bye, bye to anyone who is doing this…
No we use crew access. It’s my understanding that it was custom built for Alaska. Maybe somebody else with more knowledge on Crew access can chime in. The user interface isn’t bad coming from Horizon. We used E Crew and Crew access is Miles better than E Crew.
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Old 02-19-2025 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by airb320
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pretty much everybody uses FcView at Hawaiian to view their schedule.

hawaiian side got an email from SD today basically saying the same thing regarding bots.
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Old 02-20-2025 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Costanza
Bascially says that giving out your password to a third party opens the company to cyber attacks and is a violation of company policy. They are hiring an IT Specialist to see who has been doing this and said the the violations are "extremely serious" will be acted on rapidly and dicipline could include termination. The Flica Bot website has a spelling error (Autoamtically) right on the main page so might be some sketchy people collecting passwords which also gives acccess to paycheck and other info. Might mention to SD to have Hawaiian included in IT investigaiton if you're so inclined.
so under this logic wouldn’t this also include apps like Crewline? I don’t use FCview because the UI sucks and I prefer the layout of Crewline which also shows OT along with your schedule. Hope they don’t start stickling that.
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Old 02-20-2025 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by MinimumFuel
so under this logic wouldn’t this also include apps like Crewline? I don’t use FCview because the UI sucks and I prefer the layout of Crewline which also shows OT along with your schedule. Hope they don’t start stickling that.
I think you are correct that it would include crewline if you are giving them your login information. They use dual verificaiton login an they don't want 100s of pilots bypassing the dual verification login and giving access to pilot's information to a third party that could be hacked.
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Old 02-20-2025 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Costanza
I think you are correct that it would include crewline if you are giving them your login information. They use dual verificaiton login an they don't want 100s of pilots bypassing the dual verification login and giving access to pilot's information to a third party that could be hacked.
so what, everyone delete FCview and Crewline? That’s only what, the entire pilot roster?
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Old 02-20-2025 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by OliverClozehoff
Hawaiian definitely has bot users. Every time a Singapore maintanence flight gets put into open time the same guy immediately has the RO spot. The guy has no shame apparently because every 330 FO knows about him and he still continues to do it (including 2 days ago). He's not the only one I'm sure but no one else makes it so blatantly obvious. Hope Alaska fixes this and he gets fired, along with all the others.
Isn’t there some additional benefit to the RO slot over the two FO slots aside from the $1/hr override?
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Old 02-20-2025 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Costanza
I think you are correct that it would include crewline if you are giving them your login information. They use dual verificaiton login an they don't want 100s of pilots bypassing the dual verification login and giving access to pilot's information to a third party that could be hacked.
I think what triggered this is we had a successful “cyber attack” over here at AS it was a phishing email that circumvented the external sender and I’m sure some employees took the bait and this triggered something in IT to find how it got around the external sender FLAG/TAG
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Old 02-20-2025 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by MinimumFuel
so what, everyone delete FCview and Crewline? That’s only what, the entire pilot roster?
Maybe one or both of those are authorized to be used. Don't know. I suspect that using them is not allowed if you give them your password and they are not on some approved vendor list. Email your CP and ask. I would not want to be the emplyee who's login information was somehow used to hack into the company and cause problems. If someone hacked in and messed with the scheduling system and caused some cancellations might lead to termination if you gave them your password. Have to decide for yourself if the convience is worth the risk if knowingly violating company policy.
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