I see a future of 400 Boeing 797-XWB aircraft flying interstellar virgin routes. See, I can do that too.

 

I don't follow your logic? Without ANY scope protection AS management can place the CS300 et al with OO or QX without even negotiating with us in the first place.

I'll say it another way: AS management can legally bypass the AS pilot group and place the CS300 et al with QX or OO without our input, opinion or council. Once again, Alaska pilots DO NOT HAVE ANY SCOPE PROTECTION which means it is 100% legal for our management team to place these aircraft with QX or OO and announce the news on our intranet. If you do not think that they'll do this you're living in another world.

However, I believe that they WILL negotiate with us by threatening to place the CS300 et al with OO or QX unless we agree to minimal (or no) pay increases and minimal (or no) work rule improvements. Regardless of the fight that we put up there is NOTHING we can do as a pilot group to prevent them from placing the CS300 et al with QX or OO. What are we going to do? Have a massive sick out? Write up nit picky items? Please, at the end of the day people still need to get paid and we all will fall into line at some point. Keep in mind that our COO is ON RECORD stating that the company is willing to risk its relationship with the pilot group in order to achieve and execute on their business plan. Remember, we work for Alaska AIR GROUP and our management team does what is best for Alaska AIR GROUP, not Alaska Airlines.

 

For the 6th Billionth time, AGA can't put the CS300 or any other similar aircraft with OO because of their scope agreements with other airlines that have scope. We have limited 3rd party scope protection.


Horizon is a different story, but they do not scare me that much.

 

The day that happens I’m out of this place. Management can do whatever they want, but we all know what the consequences will be.

As for negotiating, it will be a stalemate unless we get improvements AND scope. Then it comes down to whether or not the NMB will let us strike. Vote wisely in 2020.

 

This kind of thinking is exactly why we find ourselves in the position in which we do. "They can't do it...they wouldn't do it...don't worry, it will never happen because of such and such agreement..."

In regards to your last line above concerning Horizon: WOW.

 

It doesn't matter what the consequences will be. AAG does not care for or respect the AS pilot group. We are simply a cost to them, a cost which by the way just increased far more than they wanted it to. Contract 2020 is going to be a bitter, hateful and nasty fight. Apply, interview and leave now instead of waiting until 2020 to only be disappointed and compensated 92% of what everyone else makes.

 

Good advice. Are you following it?

 

The attrition numbers simply don’t support statements like this. I wish they did. For years people have been threatening to leave, and I still do but it isn’t that easy unless you want to go work at a regional. I don’t know if you’re a ca or fo but a few thousand hours of A320 sic isn’t doing anything for my job hunting.

 

Why haven’t you left already? The wise, willing, and able are gone already. The writing on wall is so old that it’s fading, buddy.

 

I’m working on an exit plan. If scope isn’t fixed and they do anything worse than what reasonable scope would have prevented, I’ll walk.