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Old 05-02-2022, 03:09 PM
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How many are showing up to class? Any no shows? What plane/base are new hires getting? When do find out? How is seniority decided in Indoc? Any delays in training after starting IOE?

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Old 05-02-2022, 03:27 PM
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Well, you’ve been preaching lately about how little leverage we have and the fact we will never be released. Essentially how futile our position is. So what’s the alternative in your view? Keep this current contract forever or accept the company’s offer and at least get modest gains. You aren’t articulating any other path forward imo.
Keep current contract until our side negotiates a deal for us that the pilot group likes. The current offer ain’t it. Why is that so hard to understand?
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So the beatings will continue till moral improves. I’m so glad I’m out there!
Will the moralE improve? Darn spell check.
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Old 05-02-2022, 06:07 PM
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If you are a new hire in training and the pilot group were to go on strike what happens to you? Your not a pilot yet, and I certainly wouldn’t cross a picket line.

What if your out of training and a strike happens? You are still on probation, are you still guaranteed your job back when the strike ends?

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Old 05-02-2022, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 05Duramax View Post
If you are a new hire in training and the pilot group were to go on strike what happens to you? Your not a pilot yet, and I certainly wouldn’t cross a picket line.

What if your out of training and a strike happens? You are still on probation, are you still guaranteed your job back when the strike ends?


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you can’t strike while you are on probation the union knows this they have your back as a new hire they don’t want you to get fired
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Old 05-02-2022, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Felix14 View Post
How many are showing up to class? Any no shows? What plane/base are new hires getting? When do find out? How is seniority decided in Indoc? Any delays in training after starting IOE?

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Broad brush but at least a few no shows a class they know this now and started to over fill new hire classes by a few to hedge. It’s a mixed bag each class all bases and fleets just depends what they need a real mixed bag hard to say
age for seniority
airbus is running about 2.5 weeks for OE
Boeing running about 4-5 weeks
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Old 05-02-2022, 08:23 PM
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Stop talking, you’re embarrassing yourself
No. I think I'll continue. Because you're a joke to me with little comprehension skills.
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Old 05-02-2022, 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 05Duramax View Post
If you are a new hire in training and the pilot group were to go on strike what happens to you? Your not a pilot yet, and I certainly wouldn’t cross a picket line.

What if your out of training and a strike happens? You are still on probation, are you still guaranteed your job back when the strike ends?

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Hey there, welcome to a part 121 carrier. If you're in training while a strike happens, then you show up to class as normal. You're still a pilot, you're just on probation. Probation lasts for one year, and during that time you don't do any union job action that reflects negatively on the company, which includes informational picketing and striking work. I am sure that the union will put out more information if it comes time for a strike, which would still be months away. The good news is that all the captains you would be paired with will be on strike (except management pilots and one other guy), so most likely your trip would cancel before you needed to show at the airport, but for the sake of your job during probation, you show up to work as normal.

I could be wrong, so definitely call your rep or wait for an official union email informing you what to do in the event of a strike.
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Old 05-03-2022, 12:18 AM
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The good news is that all the captains you would be paired with will be on strike (except management pilots and one other guy), so most likely your trip would cancel before you needed to show at the airport, but for the sake of your job during probation, you show up to work as normal.
Yeah I don't think so. The union would have guidance for those in class but I can't imagine any scenario in which new hires would be flying and not on the picket line, regardless of their probationary status.
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Yeah I don't think so. The union would have guidance for those in class but I can't imagine any scenario in which new hires would be flying and not on the picket line, regardless of their probationary status.
Now you have me curious.. I would think on probation they wouldn't participate.. how many management pilots are there total? Not enough to even make a dent if we went on strike.
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