NotTellin

They gotta make up for the attrition that this TA won’t fix.

pilotr

Greetings,

Newly considering Alaska as a future employer. I do not know anything about their hiring process. After applying online, what are the hurdles to jump? Online? In person? Testing? What is a typical timeline? Interested in recently hired folks' personal experiences. Can anyone help answer?

Many thanks....

GoodJet

How can this be possible?? This is a huge increase over this year, 2022.

flysnoopy76

It’s not possible, even under the best circumstances of rapid growth, let alone during a recession.

Flaps1check

We may be hiring that many. We are not training that many, we still have people from the 2 bids ago with out a class date.

Laska

Talk to your base chief pilot and they will say this is the company’s intention. We will already have all the 320 aircraft gone and only have 10 321 to get rid of by the end of 2023. There will be much less airbus pilots to transition. So they can continue to hire 20 a week as needed. We also have the additional sims coming online.

Lewbronski

Yes to the above. And to reiterate, don’t EVER cross a picket line.

Also, how long do you think a strike would last? There have been three mainline passenger airline pilot strikes since 1997: they lasted 24 minutes, 14 days, and four days.

And how stressed or emotional would you be as a new hire coming to work with your pilot group on strike? IMSICK. I’d personally be very stressed and feel very bad going to work while the pilots in my pilot group were on strike. So, legally, the FAA says that I’d be obligated to not work.

rickair7777

Yes with a 99% strike vote, the operation would stop, period. The losses would mount by the tens of millions $ every hour. Top managers' jobs would not survive a day of that.

And no pool of wanna-be potential scabs waiting in the wings, and no capacity to train them if there were. Any qualified has numerous opportunities which are far, far better than crossing a line.

But none of that even matters now, the company bargained in good faith, that buys them at least a couple years with the NMB.

Lewbronski

None of that matters now because the TA is going to pass with something like an 85% vote in favor of ratification.

The company bargaining in good faith does not necessarily buy them an extra couple of years in mediation. Bargaining in good faith is simply the bare-bones legal requirement that arises out of the RLA's obligation to "exert every reasonable to make and maintain agreements."

If the mediator senses that movement toward an agreement is still possible by using the various tactics available to a mediator to spur on negotiations, then mediation will continue (unless mediation proceeds on a basis that is "patently arbitrary" and for a period that is "patently unreasonable"). If the mediator determines that the parties are at an impasse, then they will recommend to the NMB that the parties be released from mediation. This could happen in months or in years. In the case of the railroads that just wrapped up a few weeks ago, it took months. In many other cases, it has taken years.

It's possible that both sides bargaining in good faith simply refuse to bend any further to the demands of the other despite the best efforts of the mediator to bring about an agreement. The Ninth Circuit explained in a 1980 RLA case that "obstinate and unyielding" positions do not violate the requirements of good faith bargaining.

If "obstinate and unyielding" positions on both sides result in an impasse, then a release may become realistic in well under a couple of years even though both sides are bargaining in good faith.

GoodJet

Yeah I'm sorry but intentions or not the company is training about 60 pilots per month for the max months. For the summer months it was far less. These numbers are easy to find. There is no way they can achieve the kind of numbers you are talking about. Are the BCP telling you this? I have not seen any official communications that have talked about these kinds of hiring numbers. I'm sorry but I am extremely skeptical that this is the intention and I do not believe it would be possible even if this was the intent.