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Old 05-01-2025 | 01:15 PM
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Yet somehow for ANC our block hours are down from May to June.
A330?

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Old 05-01-2025 | 01:29 PM
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Yet somehow for ANC our block hours are down from May to June.
330 and in the reschedule report the JFK ANC being moved up by some time this year did not allow ANC crews to fly it back it says


add up all of the base block hours they are more than from the June of 24
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Old 05-01-2025 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Akamai
There will be twelve 787’s based in SEA long before the fences come down. That’s ~240 HAL pilots right there. If they take the additional eight 787’s then that’s another ~160 HAL pilots.
I think the math would be much more than that. 8 crews per plane isn’t enough. 11-12 crews. 360+ pilots.
All the flights over 12 hrs, 4 crew and if we can get mandatory 2 Capt per flight, then half of that number will be Capts. Up to at least 480 pilots for the 12.
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Old 05-01-2025 | 04:49 PM
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I think the math would be much more than that. 8 crews per plane isn’t enough. 11-12 crews. 360+ pilots.
All the flights over 12 hrs, 4 crew and if we can get mandatory 2 Capt per flight, then half of that number will be Capts. Up to at least 480 pilots for the 12.
2 CAs on 4 pilot crews is where I hope we’re aiming.
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Old 05-01-2025 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Neosporin
I think the math would be much more than that. 8 crews per plane isn’t enough. 11-12 crews. 360+ pilots.
All the flights over 12 hrs, 4 crew and if we can get mandatory 2 Capt per flight, then half of that number will be Capts. Up to at least 480 pilots for the 12.
My math was a WAG using 10 crews per plane. Eastern Asia and western Europe are all less than 12 hours from SEA. Southeast Asia and deep Europe could certainly require more crews per plane. Two Captains for over 12 hours would be great.
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Old 05-01-2025 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Capo2ndFret
2 CAs on 4 pilot crews is where I hope we’re aiming.

yes, should be contractual. We”ll see how it’s negotiated. Hopefully.
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Old 05-01-2025 | 06:39 PM
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My math was a WAG using 10 crews per plane. Western Asia and Eastern Europe are all less than 12 hours from SEA. Southeast Asia and deep Europe could certainly require more crews per plane. Two Captains for over 12 hours would be great.
what is Hawaiian policy now? 1 CA 2 or 3 FOs for long and long long haul
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Old 05-01-2025 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Akamai
My math was a WAG using 10 crews per plane. Western Asia and Eastern Europe are all less than 12 hours from SEA. Southeast Asia and deep Europe could certainly require more crews per plane. Two Captains for over 12 hours would be great.
No worries Akamai, yea just conversation worthy stuff.
Maybe you mean, Eastern Asia and Western Europe..?
On an avenge sure, but if either way is more than 12, but you’re already familiar I’m sure.
London maybe but Paris and Rome, those are pushing the limits.
Taipei and further, 12+
Anyway, as long as it’s always no less than 2 Captains.
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Old 05-01-2025 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Jetlikespeed
what is Hawaiian policy now? 1 CA 2 or 3 FOs for long and long long haul

Discretion by company. Beijing was.
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Old 05-01-2025 | 06:44 PM
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I think the math would be much more than that. 8 crews per plane isn’t enough. 11-12 crews. 360+ pilots.
All the flights over 12 hrs, 4 crew and if we can get mandatory 2 Capt per flight, then half of that number will be Capts. Up to at least 480 pilots for the 12.

480 pilots for 12 planes! HAL has 426 A330 pilots for 24 planes
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