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Old 11-28-2016 | 11:21 AM
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Ding ding. Maybe the union has done this, but does anyone feel they have done an adequate job of educating our group about scope and our lack of it?


A quick look at history can show us the importance of scope
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Old 11-28-2016 | 01:29 PM
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Here is a nice piece of company propaganda from our last contract negotiations.
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Old 11-28-2016 | 02:25 PM
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So looking at the date and looking at the Skywest E175s painted in ALK colors how does the union feel about the that LIE?...
I am still dumbfounded by a pilot group that believes management!
Again it's the senior pilots ensuring their get theirs just like the "baby" generation sucking up the economic marrow of the US.
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Old 11-28-2016 | 02:31 PM
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It seems after that reply to the question Ben Brookman was promoted to "Director Network Planning" moving up from manager. Does the union follow the lie trail?
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Old 11-28-2016 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by gazoo34
So looking at the date and looking at the Skywest E175s painted in ALK colors how does the union feel about the that LIE?...

I am still dumbfounded by a pilot group that believes management!

Again it's the senior pilots ensuring their get theirs just like the "baby" generation sucking up the economic marrow of the US.


I'm pretty sure our ALPA leaders knew the companies plans for ERJ-175s during our last contract negotiations. Problem was not enough Alaska pilots cared.

Now that there are 58 76 seat ERJs on their way plus another 30 options which could very easily be turned into 120 seat 195s

Routes that once had a 737 are being replaced with 175s in Portland so now the Senior pilots are starting to care. It's sad that that's what it takes to get people's attention but at least more people are starting to realize the threat.

No Scope No Vote!
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Old 11-28-2016 | 05:25 PM
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Scope is by far THE most important subject in the jcba. It baffles me to hear there's guys out there who still think managment will "take care of them"!!! Horizon, Skywest and probably Compass soon too will be drooling to get their hands on routes that currently have mainline aircraft flying them. It's seriously now or never...
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Old 11-28-2016 | 05:31 PM
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Gonna be real interesting... Having come from the military to the airlines recently, this whole union and contract thing is new to me. I'm learning a great deal...
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Old 11-28-2016 | 08:37 PM
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Well if you ever want to see the left seat you better hope we get good scope language.
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Old 11-29-2016 | 08:29 AM
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The best way to get good SCOPE language is to keep talking to your Alpa reps. The more they hear about it the more leverage they have to fight.
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Old 11-29-2016 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by CassinAK
I'm pretty sure our ALPA leaders knew the companies plans for ERJ-175s during our last contract negotiations. Problem was not enough Alaska pilots cared.

Now that there are 58 76 seat ERJs on their way plus another 30 options which could very easily be turned into 120 seat 195s

Routes that once had a 737 are being replaced with 175s in Portland so now the Senior pilots are starting to care. It's sad that that's what it takes to get people's attention but at least more people are starting to realize the threat.

No Scope No Vote!
Screw their orders. We need scope to tie RJs to a small percentage of mainline fleet size.
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