The only thing stopping us from achieving a industry leading contract is Brad doesn't want to be fired. I don't see how he and/or Ben can survive "giving" us a large raise. Perhaps a large golden parachute is in the works. Something has to change for there to be movement.

 

He'd survive because he can tell his bosses that if he didn't give the raise they wouldn't get their merger

 

our voting record for the last 12 years clearly says otherwise....
Amongst the alpa airline crowd we are famous for being the"All talk but no Action group...

 

The latest JNC ledger email from today further shows Alaska management refusing to come to the table and complete the TPA. I think the gloves are off and the company is now playing dirty. It's like they are not even aware of the other airlines and their contracts and TA's and the like. At this point no one should be all talk and no action.

 

Have you considered they just are simply not going to sign anything until the DOJ part is done. Why agree to terms on anything until the deal is done? Anything they agree to now could be used against them when section 6 opens if the deal fall through.

I know pilots love to think we are the center of the universe, but there are a lot of moving parts. As simple example it could be that they need to know where the codeshare and JV provisions of the DOJ settlement shake out before they agree to what sections of scope they want to talk about.

That's just one example. Save the hyperbole gloves off yada yada yada for now. I think it is a safe bet that as soon as the DOJ signs off the TPA will be done and all the hand wringing chicken little talk will be for naught.

We will see.

 

Yes I have thought of that, but I still don't care. I'm just not impressed with Alaska management...I'm not impressed with VX management either. I'm a pilot so I'll never be happy!

 

As long as you are happy with that.

 

Excellent point of view.

 

Truly thinking like management. According to our MEC, the TPA is taking longer than any other mergers that have taken place in the recent years. It's in the best interest of management to drag this TPA and negotiations out as long as possible. Let's not forget how ruthless and cold this management group can be and have been. In the name of business, they will eat their young if need be. Remember, arrogance and greed....

 

""The air group is the most profitable passenger airline in the U.S. They have been making record profits on our backs for the last 8+ years. They make 20%+ profit compared to single digits by the big boys and low 10s by some of the more successful major airlines. The legacies make their profit on volume but ounce for ounce, the air group is a powerhouse. According to Mr. Tilden, company’s earnings per share are expected to outperform all but 36 companies in the S&P 500. The air group's net profit in 2015 was $842 million. Just to give you an idea, the air group's 2016 first quarter net profit was $184 million-another record! As we all know, the first quarter is the slowest season.""

So please answer which airline management do you like? Which airline has a better management team? The management we have now is not the same as we had 10-15 years ago. It's a different airline. Different environment. Our current contract is not up till 2018. They could have just stuck to that date. While I'm not happy with the progress of the TPA etc. I think they have their hands full with the VX merger. From what I have heard from ALPA communications the Management side of the negotiation team are amateurs. I support the "NO concessions and industry leading pay" mantra. Most of the people I fly with are very happy at AS but ARE expecting a BIG pay bump.

The Airline industry is doing better now than has in the past decades. AS has been hiring pilots and FA's. New pilots are spending less than a year on reserve. If you are not happy now you will never be happy. With all the airlines hiring you should bail to the one you think is best.