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Old 11-25-2016 | 06:48 PM
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It is honestly ridiculous! Merger done by the end of next week. Interesting times indeed.
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Old 11-26-2016 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by LineGrinder400
And we cannot forget this part of the story as well as it relates to bargaining power (note that we are already four years into this chart)...

PILOT RETIREMENT NUMBERS (2012-2047)

Is this accurate? I thought that AA had everyone beat when it came to Retirements.

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Old 11-26-2016 | 01:14 PM
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Is this accurate? I thought that AA had everyone beat when it came to Retirements.

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Old 11-27-2016 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Arctichicken
Stockholm Syndrome! Yes, some of you have it. Making excuses on behalf of management, seriously?! They are completely dissing this pilot group and you don't even know it. Wise up, people!
Not excuses for anything or anybody...just smart enough to see the world for how it works. Easier on the blood pressure to understand the game for what it is than to than to be a paranoid, self aggrandizing angry elf who buys in to the notion that the world revolves around him.

Don't worry so much Chicken bro'... it'll be okay. But just to be on the safe side, do yourself a favor and ask your doctor if your heart is healthy enough for sex.
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Old 11-27-2016 | 03:11 PM
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It's funny the pilots as a group don't feel any obligation to help the younger pilots coming into the system. Having left the military I miss the comraderie and the support I gave and was given to the junior pilots. Part 121 pilots have an "all for me just for me" attitude and it's sad because this used to be a great respectable profession.
Pilots used to have strong unions that ensured the respectability of the profession, what happened?
Now you have unions voting in contracts that pay an FO, someone that has numerous lives literally in the palm of their hands less than the burger flippers at SEA. How does this happen I ask again?
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Old 11-27-2016 | 04:12 PM
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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/delta-...214037142.html

There's a reason mgt wants the union to pinpoint exactly what part of Section 1 that needs to be negotiated. They don't want to risk it going to arbitration per the current AS contract in order to get a JCBA. We need it all: weight restriction, seat limit, grandfather in current ones, restrict future RJs, and ratio for RJ removal for any loss of mainline 737/320 fleets.
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Old 11-27-2016 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop
Not excuses for anything or anybody...just smart enough to see the world for how it works. Easier on the blood pressure to understand the game for what it is than to than to be a paranoid, self aggrandizing angry elf who buys in to the notion that the world revolves around him.

Don't worry so much Chicken bro'... it'll be okay. But just to be on the safe side, do yourself a favor and ask your doctor if your heart is healthy enough for sex.
Obviously, you don't get it.
In regards to my health, your mom said that I was great. Thanks, son!
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Old 11-27-2016 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Arctichicken
Obviously, you don't get it.
In regards to my health, your mom said that I was great. Thanks, son!
Prickly little thing ain't ya? Mature little fella, too. Mom jabs? Come on Chicken...you call yourself a professional right?

You can do better than that. Come on now.
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Old 11-28-2016 | 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/delta-...214037142.html

There's a reason mgt wants the union to pinpoint exactly what part of Section 1 that needs to be negotiated. They don't want to risk it going to arbitration per the current AS contract in order to get a JCBA. We need it all: weight restriction, seat limit, grandfather in current ones, restrict future RJs, and ratio for RJ removal for any loss of mainline 737/320 fleets.
Ding ding. Maybe the union has done this, but does anyone feel they have done an adequate job of educating our group about scope and our lack of it?
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Old 11-28-2016 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by gazoo34
It's funny the pilots as a group don't feel any obligation to help the younger pilots coming into the system. Having left the military I miss the comraderie and the support I gave and was given to the junior pilots. Part 121 pilots have an "all for me just for me" attitude and it's sad because this used to be a great respectable profession.
Pilots used to have strong unions that ensured the respectability of the profession, what happened?
Now you have unions voting in contracts that pay an FO, someone that has numerous lives literally in the palm of their hands less than the burger flippers at SEA. How does this happen I ask again?
I've asked this very same question myself. You already know the answer. Love of money and selfish motives are the culprit in every case. There's a common goal in the military and mutual support is the lifeline in and out of the cockpit. In the airline world, CRM/mutual support ends when the brakes are set and the L1 door is opened. You are absolutely right; we need a change and lose the "I got mine" attitude.
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