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Old 09-13-2016 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Mea25000
Every FO I have flown with wants nothing to do with VX and this merger... But alas we are stuck.


I feel the same sometimes. It's probably why most Alaska folks I've come across have been unfriendly or flat out refuse to acknowledge a lowlife VX person like myself.

You guys aren't exactly the cream of the crop, otherwise your mgmt wouldn't have bought us.
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Old 09-13-2016 | 04:12 PM
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[QUOTE=OCCP;2201886It's probably why most Alaska folks I've come across have been unfriendly or flat out refuse to acknowledge a lowlife VX person like myself.

You guys aren't exactly the cream of the crop, otherwise your mgmt wouldn't have bought us.[/QUOTE]

Don't take it personally. I'm willing to bet that some of those folks were SEA pilots. Either they forgot to take their Prozac that day or it was that time of the year (9 of 12 months). I get the same treatment from my own brothas from the gloom dome.
Cream of the crop? It's all good, bro. We can all be the cream of the crop in our own minds. Enjoy the ride!
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Old 09-13-2016 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Are you sure?
Last Q&A I read said for the JCBA, both the AS and VX MECs have to approve. If one doesn't, then it's a no go. But for the general population there would be no distinction, it's all ~2500 pilots who vote yes or no and has to pass of that by 50% + 1.
Ok. I think you are right. I may have misread it. Each MEC ratifies separately. Thanks for clarification.
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Old 09-13-2016 | 05:06 PM
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No, management bought you to save their jobs... If not we would have soon ended up part of Delta. I don't believe guys are being rude to VX pilots. I have had 3 in the last 6 mo's on the jump... All seemed like good guys. Met all three of your contract guys.. Two of them I thought were great... The other so so. Have talked to a handful of guys in LAX and SFO, I would say everyone seemed friendly and polite. I think they would say the same of me and the FO's I was flying with. I think if you look at this merger objectively you would realize VX pilots have nothing to lose and everything to gain. AS pilots have nothing to gain and everything to lose. That is not a good combination for our careers... I have more then 28 years left and it is feeling more like a prison sentence at this point. I honestly think the merger is going to be a disaster, I sincerely hope I am wrong.
This thing is going to take a while, and I think it will soon get very ugly. Just look at the TPA.. It should have taken a couple of weeks to hammer out. No matter how bad it gets I will never be rude to anyone at VX... Might be jealous, but not rude.

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Old 09-13-2016 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Mea25000
No, management bought you to save their jobs... If not we would have soon ended up part of Delta. I don't believe guys are being rude to VX pilots. I have had 3 in the last 6 mo's on the jump... All seemed like good guys. Met all three of your contract guys.. Two of them I thought were great... The other so so. Have talked to a handful of guys in LAX and SFO, I would say everyone seemed friendly and polite. I think they would say the same of me and the FO's I was flying with. I think if you look at this merger objectively you would realize VX pilots have nothing to lose and everything to gain. AS pilots have nothing to gain and everything to lose. That is not a good combination for our careers... I have more then 28 years left and it is feeling more like a prison sentence at this point. I honestly think the merger is going to be a disaster, I sincerely hope I am wrong.
This thing is going to take a while, and I think it will soon get very ugly. Just look at the TPA.. It should have taken a couple of weeks to hammer out. No matter how bad it gets I will never be rude to anyone at VX... Might be jealous, but not rude.
Not rude, just another big mouth, condescending, arrogant, know it all-post it all millennial. You seem like a peach.
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Old 09-13-2016 | 06:31 PM
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Someone must have peed in poor Reggie Dunlops cheerios this morning. Reggie probably has what is called ( RPD ) " Resting BITC* Face "
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Old 09-13-2016 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Mea25000
No, management bought you to save their jobs... If not we would have soon ended up part of Delta. I don't believe guys are being rude to VX pilots. I have had 3 in the last 6 mo's on the jump... All seemed like good guys. Met all three of your contract guys.. Two of them I thought were great... The other so so. Have talked to a handful of guys in LAX and SFO, I would say everyone seemed friendly and polite. I think they would say the same of me and the FO's I was flying with. I think if you look at this merger objectively you would realize VX pilots have nothing to lose and everything to gain. AS pilots have nothing to gain and everything to lose. That is not a good combination for our careers... I have more then 28 years left and it is feeling more like a prison sentence at this point. I honestly think the merger is going to be a disaster, I sincerely hope I am wrong.
This thing is going to take a while, and I think it will soon get very ugly. Just look at the TPA.. It should have taken a couple of weeks to hammer out. No matter how bad it gets I will never be rude to anyone at VX... Might be jealous, but not rude.
Why would you be jealous of VX? By your comment of 28 years left, sounds like you are a 36-37 year old CA at Alaska. Can't be that bad? We have some CAs in their 30s but the majority are in the 40s and 50s.
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Old 09-14-2016 | 04:35 AM
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Thanks guys for the fish yesterday in LAX!
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Old 09-14-2016 | 07:01 AM
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Be prepared for the company to announce a potential 100 airplane expansion with that lovely new 737 Max 10.... (or whatever Boeing decides to do yet again with revamping the 737.. ugh)

BUT ONLY IF.....

Us greedy pilots take current Virgin rates +10% then COLA adjustments for rest of contract.

Think I'm crazy? Perhaps.. but the point is just be prepared for anything from the company at this point.

We cannot lose focus on an INDUSTRY LEADING CONTRACT being the goal. Our value towards these incredible record profits must be respected. Nothing personal, just the cost of doing business in the climate we are currently in.
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Old 09-14-2016 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop
Not rude, just another big mouth, condescending, arrogant, know it all-post it all millennial. You seem like a peach.
If he has 28 years left, he is by definition not a millennial.
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