What do you expect with new contract?
10-01-2016 | 09:07 AM
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Alaska Management lives in their own world. In that world, it's absolutely essential that their employees get substandard everything compared to the other Legacy Carriers. They take it *personally*...VERY personally. Honestly, they'd rather go out of business than pay industry leading anything...even if they could easily afford it.
10-01-2016 | 02:49 PM
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Scope is negotiated as Section 1 of a joined collective bargaining agreement. I don't think there's any scope section of a TPA. The holdup seems to be on terms, time line, and/or the process of obtaining a JCBA. The only concerning thing I see is the zero future dates scheduled for TPA negotiations. No reason why they can't at least nail out a couple dates to meet in October to try and do more back/forths on Section 2 of the TPA.
10-01-2016 | 03:12 PM
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Just another airline management working for nobody but their shareholders!
If it takes that long just to hash out a TPA, how long do you think actual negotiations are going to take?!
We should absolutely NOT give any concessions, NONE...
I didn't ask to be sold to another small airline who doesn't know what they are doing or rather don't want to pay what the new industry standard is...geeezz...
If it takes that long just to hash out a TPA, how long do you think actual negotiations are going to take?!
We should absolutely NOT give any concessions, NONE...
I didn't ask to be sold to another small airline who doesn't know what they are doing or rather don't want to pay what the new industry standard is...geeezz...
10-01-2016 | 06:40 PM
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Sounds like AS mgmt is living in the Stone Age. That good old boy small hometown Seattle airline attitude won't work when they're trying to fend off delta and JetBlue. This acquisition changes things for them and they can't afford to botch this. I hope they step up and play ball or we are all screwed.
10-01-2016 | 09:56 PM
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From: 737 tiller master
I wouldn't expect anything less from the airgroup. They're only doing their job to see how we'll react as a group. Unfortunately, they're going about it in the wrong way and their arrogance & greed are blinding them. The best thing that we can do is to stay informed, unified, and not twitch. The company is walking on very thin ice and they are moving closer to being cornered. Barring another economic down turn and/or another 9/11 sort of attack, in which case everyone involved is screwed, we as a pilot group have a huge upper hand. The company needs the JCBA. Be prepared to see more junior pilots jump ship for greener pastures. Only the old, the die hard, and the rejects will remain aboard. Welcome to Mesa of the major world.
10-02-2016 | 04:09 AM
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From: Captain B-737
The Problem Alaska Management has is this: None of us give a damn if their little merger experiment fails. It's laughable to think they're playing "hard ball" with a group of people that could care less if this deal ever closes. Both MEC's should just go home and forget all about this BS. This is 100% their problem. Who cares? BTW, They can Go ahead and Whip saw...see how quickly JD Powers (and customers) forget Alaska Airlines. If they want World War III, they can have it. It's their choice.
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10-02-2016 | 09:10 AM
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From: 737 tiller master
The company has everything to lose. Stalling negotiations, throttling back summer vacations, abusing reserves, ****ing off new hires (and the list goes on) will only make matters worse. Their bullying tactics will only backfire. No rah rah PDM, Flight Path, 4th Stripe, SIC Seminar, etc. is going to close the Pandora's box. The ice is getting thinner and Happy Gilmore pilots are becoming the endangered species.
10-02-2016 | 12:05 PM
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The best 2 lines in the JNC update.
"Management also must recognize the reality of the current bargaining environment, and that now is the time to negotiate improvements into the JCBA. We are not interested in making concessions."
"Management also must recognize the reality of the current bargaining environment, and that now is the time to negotiate improvements into the JCBA. We are not interested in making concessions."
10-03-2016 | 04:58 AM
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