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01-07-2019 | 11:42 AM

#411

LoFly

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Originally Posted by Notwhatithought

No hiring for 2019.

Actually, no hiring until we reach at least 105 airplanes was the actual wording. On top of that, we’re only one COO away from consolidating to 3 main bases with multi day trips and layovers.

At least they’re being honest with their plans?

What was that website again? Airlineapp-something?

01-07-2019 | 11:45 AM

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skydisaster

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Originally Posted by Notwhatithought

On top of that, we’re only one COO away from consolidating to 3 main bases with multi day trips and layovers.

At least they’re being honest with their plans?

That will clear out the bottom half of the seniority list in a hurry.

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01-07-2019 | 12:06 PM

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Wow, if this is all accurate it’s some pretty awful info.

01-07-2019 | 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Notwhatithought

Is that any real surprise though? With one fleet type, multi day trips are inevitable. It opens up much more opportunities to keep all those planes flying and making money.

01-07-2019 | 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by eagleatr

Is that any real surprise though? With one fleet type, multi day trips are inevitable. It opens up much more opportunities to keep all those planes flying and making money.

Apparently you haven’t heard of EasyJet, 29 crew bases with day trips. The model works well and is very profitable. Some 2 day trips will be added but most will bid senior. I see you’re still looking back while you sit in the hotels, hoping for QOL failure here to reinstate your move. If that rumor was actually true, the headcount would need to be almost doubled.

01-07-2019 | 02:59 PM

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3 or 4 bases is easily debunked... None of the current hubs have anymore RON capacity, and going to overnights requires infrastructure and planning the company simply doesn't have. That said, if we get sold/merged I can easily see most of the bases going away.

01-07-2019 | 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by KC135

Actually, my QOL is significantly better now than it ever was there. If you honestly think they aren't considering multi day trips, I think you are fooling yourself. I think it'll happen, but I couldn't predict when. It gives them the opportunity to connect coast to coast.

01-07-2019 | 04:17 PM

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What was said is that “we are one COO away from 3 bases with layovers etc...”

9easy... The way multi day trips work is that the airplanes and crews are overnighted at out stations so the hubs current capacity wouldn’t have to change. Just like all other airlines in the country do it currently.

01-07-2019 | 06:34 PM

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The software needed for tail routing, crew tracking, hotels, does not exist and can not be done with Merlot or the current hodgepodge setup and skeleton support staff. Could they buy a program like Sabre/Flica/Amadeus and make it work? Sure, but that would take a while and the writing would be on the wall at that point.

01-07-2019 | 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by skydisaster

That will clear out the bottom half of the seniority list in a hurry.

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Probably a TON of truth to this. I think most people are fine with 10-25% of trips being two days. (I would sign up for that.) On the other hand, if you were talking 3-4 day trips, there would a mad rush for anywhere else. All of the other ULCCs (pending Frontier's TA) pay better and are more commutable. The only reason they have been able to keep pilots this long is the ability to be home every night. If we started doing the standard 3-4 day trip thing, no one is going to be willing to do it for a discount, unless they are very senior and can't get hired anywhere else.

I know my apps would go live about three seconds after that announcement was made.