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Old 01-26-2015 | 08:11 AM
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The waiting game has begun in earnest. Best of luck to all of us, although I don’t think we need it. G4 management has done everything to ensure a positive outcome from the nmb board. They have brought this wrath unto themselves.
Old 01-26-2015 | 10:00 AM
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What does the Teamster email mean? Is it to avoid mediator scheduling conflicts or is it to work towards being released?
Old 01-26-2015 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by disco inferno
What does the Teamster email mean? Is it to avoid mediator scheduling conflicts or is it to work towards being released?
This is the next step in the process. If the proffer is accepted, then we will be able to have the dispute arbitrated. If either party refuses arbitration (which I believe we certainly will), an impasse will be declared and we will enter the 30 day cooling off period. During this period, intense negotiations ensue to try to reach an agreement. At Midnight on the 30th day, we will be released for "self help". This is when we are free to do what needs to be done.

So, in other words, the proffer for arbitration is just a formality that we have to fulfill in order to be released.
Old 01-26-2015 | 03:41 PM
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I'd be willing to be the Company won't agree to arbitration.
Old 01-26-2015 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Packrat
I'd be willing to be the Company won't agree to arbitration.
It doesn't matter. If either party refuses arbitration, the 30 day cooling off period starts.
Old 01-26-2015 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Packrat
I'd be willing to be the Company won't agree to arbitration.
Rat grab the mike, turn up the volume and check your frequency. I thought this was old hat to you? You’ve been there, done that a thousand times over and over again? Aren’t you telling us how it is, how it was for you over at XYZ or wherever? The proffer for arbitration is granted by the nmb to both parties, to which we have requested. Either one can reject it. It’s the formality prior to 30 day cooling off. Don’t you remember that? Isn’t that what you did already a hundred times over? Or did you senior old guys have it good at XYZ, screw that lets just cut a deal and get mine? Scope anyone??
Old 01-26-2015 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by clippedwings


Been with the company just over 2 years, going to make around 80k this year, live 20 minutes from the airport, work am shift ( show 0600 usually done around 1400), in my bed every night, just voted in a union, and flying newer airbus right now. That is how I am willing to put up with it. Things will get even better once we hash things out with the company on soft pay, 401k, and other things.... . Enjoy your EWR commute.




I have read it and understand there's some bad blood between pilots and management. That's most places I think. The TDY deal isn't great to hear about either. It just seems that after you get your base assignment you can have it pretty good though. This guy seems to think so. ^

I also saw that attrition isn't too high. Must not be that horrible to work there but I'm sure I don't know the whole story. I'd seriously want to hear more about it though. I know APC is a place for doom and gloom but as an outsider it's a little confusing.
Things have changed since then.
Old 01-27-2015 | 09:25 AM
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What's the timeframe you guys are hearing for the corporate response to the proffer?
Old 01-27-2015 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by HVYMETALDRVR
What's the timeframe you guys are hearing for the corporate response to the proffer?
I don’t think management is required to make a response to the nmb. Our proffer request is individual and independent of the other party. The nmb decides now. I guess g4 management could make a rebuttal as to why that’s not necessary. But, they are way busy at HQ, there is a cute pet contest going on as we speak.
Old 01-27-2015 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Xbone
I don’t think management is required to make a response to the nmb. Our proffer request is individual and independent of the other party. The nmb decides now. I guess g4 management could make a rebuttal as to why that’s not necessary. But, they are way busy at HQ, there is a cute pet contest going on as we speak.
LOL, isn't there are two week window of "speak or forever hold your peace," or something like that window for the company respond if they want before the NMB actually decides and we move forward?
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