tyler durden

I would plan on the worst since you never know. Your reasons for fearing the 80 are probably misplaced because the transition from glass isn't that bad (it has a moving map). What you should fear about the 80 is the reliability and bargain basement maintenance done on them. As a new guy, you'll be the reserve guy picking up the pieces: rescue flights, test flights, re-positions, and so forth. Abusive and fatiguing, full of frustration and risk, it has driven many of our guys to leave G4. Google Allegiant news and realize they're only getting some of the incidents. When you're done, Google Valujet.

Go work for an actual airline, not a 'Travel company". JB, Virgin, Spirit. are all Airbus companies managed by airline professionals, not accountants, people who know the business and aren't at war with their employees. G4 is a get-rich scheme that's here to benefit only a select few at the cost and risk of everything. Most profitable "airline" because it won't invest in infrastructure or employees. $180 million was paid out to investors last year while refusing to invest in the operation or employees. The results are bad and getting much worse. You sound well qualified and there are plenty of jobs out there, choose carefully as it may be your last. Best of luck with your decision.

CLMP

Sound advice! Listen to him. Everything written above is true. It won't change with a contract, however. It will only change after a leadership flush or, heaven forbid, an accident with loss of life.

tailendcharlie

Yes by all means; decide which one of those other carriers works for you & call 'em up and put yourself in the next class....

tyler durden

Sarcasm aside, yes, I would advise to apply elsewhere and wait for a reputable airline to call. Obviously they're hiring because our guys have left to go work there. If senior people are leaving for the very same places this guy is qualified to work, what should that tell him?

tailendcharlie

Every situation is different but you've maybe got a guy in the right seat of a regional & you're telling him keep commuting to that EWR crashpad 6 leg days food stamp wages. I know this contradicts the party line on here but fact is you can come to Allegiant make choices to get off the bottom ASAP & have a superior QOL & paycheck while you wait for the call.

Which may or may not ever come.

EngFail

Our management isn’t interested in cultivating a career type airline. Our ceo hates pilots with a passion. This attitude permeates throughout the company from the top down. Your first taste of this reality will be when you have a need outside of any scheduled training and/or work assignment. He is trying to lower the bar for work rules, compensation and retirement. It is his life’s mission to leave g4 with the lowest paid most over worked pilots of the industry.

Do yourself a favor, concentrate your efforts elsewhere. Ten plus year senior captains walking out the door to start over, should be your answer. How many captains from Spirit, with same relative seniority resign to go to SWA?

tyler durden

Just answering his post man. He stated he was an Airbus guy based in the Middle East.

AZbound

'Superior QOL & paycheck'?? What airline do you work for? The paycheck may be peanuts higher, but certainly not the QOL. Anyone would be way better off staying at 'said' regional (although this guy said he is in the Desert).

And speaking of ASAP, if you do decide to walk into this nightmare of an "operation", make sure you familiarize yourself with the ASAP program. You'll be using it.

EngFail

While that may be the case for some, that is not the case for many. Your overall quality of life is likely to be better at your regional. Times have changed, some regionals offer pipelines to their respective legacy. Come here and wait it out? That was good advice when there were no options ten years ago. If you aim maybe one notch lower from the legacies, you are infinitely better off at a place like Spirit or Atlas. They have contracts. We have nothing. You can call it a career at those carriers if your legacy doesn’t call.

You risk more with your career here. Airplanes that are literally falling apart, due to poor maintenance. How many air returns and emergency evac’s have Spirit and Atlas had in the last thirty days? Then you subject yourself to our ‘Safety Department’, a.k.a. put the blame as much as possible on the pilot, to alleviate all company liability as much as possible. Which is run by a former Mesa guy who like the rest of our management shake your hand and with other put a shiv in your back.

cheers1977

There was another engine shut down in FAT yesterday.