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Old 06-30-2015 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by G4Troop
Let me start by declaring, I am not a union official of any kind. This is my opinion as a lone line pilot at g4. From where I sit, the pulse of our pilot group is thus:

Don't be surprised if you're NOT welcome.

New hires are not seen as helping the cause so don't be surprised by a cold shoulder from many. Pilots, even senior captains, are leaving in record numbers due to deplorable treatment and working conditions. Thanks to recent court rulings and a powerless FAA, the company is proudly boasting it's ability to expand without constraints or obligations to follow its own work rules. If things were bad before, they are much worse now.

With a steady supply of eager applicants, the company sees no need to negotiate and will try to drag negotiations out for years. You are NOT helping by coming here. The company celebrates the departure of our senior pilots as they welcome a fresh batch of willing, cheaper replacements happy to do the company's bidding without the protections of a union contract. Fresh off its legal victories, management is emboldened and determined to rid itself of unions altogether. Thanks to management's tactics two of the three unions are already on the ropes and the pilot group appears to be the next target on their list. Much of their success in defeating the Flight Attendants and replacing them with fresh new ones. You are the new ones in this case.

Clearly this is also the plan with the pilots and new applicants are essential to management's plan: to position itself as a niche between the regional sector and the majors. They are not interested in career employees, just those willing to come and punch their ticket get some experience and move on. Regional 2.0. Training cost are seen as negligible because here so little is spent on training. By coming here you are agreeing to work at a place that has no work rules and will do whatever's necessary to avoid having them. Allegiant is attempting to permanently alter the profession through it's attack on quality of life and standard of living. Coming here now, you will only be enabling the demise of our profession and risking your certificate through shoddy training, minimal support and poorly maintained airplanes.

Our pilots are in the struggle of their careers trying to hold the line against an Anti-Union company he11-bent on profits, unrestrained by government agencies, common sense or safety. Coming to Allegiant during our time of strife just helps them with their agenda. Think twice about coming here till after a contract is signed, otherwise you might find a cold welcome..

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Your right. Technically he/she didn't use the word "enemy"
Old 06-30-2015 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by G4er
Your right. Technically he/she didn't use the word "enemy"
They aren’t, everyone understands that. The enemy is just an atypical; lying, greed is good, bunch of pilot hating dicc wads. Who cant be trusted to do the right thing.
Old 06-30-2015 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by EngFail
So long as there isn’t a ValuJet size disaster. With our mx, every day is a miracle.
Unfortunately this is true. I know someone who was just doing an easy turn that turned into a 3 day turn because of several MX issues. I guess the service check expired and MX control tried to make the crew fly it anyways. Crazy stuff here!!
Old 06-30-2015 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by cheers1977
Unfortunately this is true. I know someone who was just doing an easy turn that turned into a 3 day turn because of several MX issues. I guess the service check expired and MX control tried to make the crew fly it anyways. Crazy stuff here!!
Service checks can be extended 24 hours...
Old 06-30-2015 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by MD80driver2day
Service checks can be extended 24 hours...
Well I don't know the whole story, just what this person told me. He is a sim instructor so I'm sure he knew that and for whatever reason did not accept the aircraft and they had to send a rescue.
Old 06-30-2015 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MD80driver2day
Service checks can be extended 24 hours...
Please post the paragraph in the GOM/GMM that allows this. Hint: you won't find it.
Old 06-30-2015 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by EngFail
So long as there isn’t a ValuJet size disaster. With our mx, every day is a miracle.
Another engine shut down yesterday. Read about the days leading up to ValuJet 592. It is almost identical to what is going on now.
Old 06-30-2015 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by disco inferno
Speak for yourself. I went from commuting to a dying regional and sleeping in a crashpad 5 days a week, to living in base and have yet to do a single overnight. I have no regrets in coming here.
Speak for myself? Um, isn't that *precisely* what I'm doing? 😏 Good for you that you somehow avoided TDY and have somehow avoided an overnight. Hopefully you'll somehow avoid an engine failure, too.

I, too, have worked for a regional...one of the worst paying ones in the industry. And while my pay was lower (as I previously pointed out), my QOL was the same if not worse. This is the reality when you have NO contract. Sorry the truth is offensive to you.
Old 06-30-2015 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by AZbound
Speak for myself? Um, isn't that *precisely* what I'm doing? 😏 Good for you that you somehow avoided TDY and have somehow avoided an overnight. Hopefully you'll somehow avoid an engine failure, too.

I, too, have worked for a regional...one of the worst paying ones in the industry. And while my pay was lower (as I previously pointed out), my QOL was the same if not worse. This is the reality when you have NO contract. Sorry the truth is offensive to you.
Sometimes the truth hurts.
Old 06-30-2015 | 10:38 PM
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