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Old 04-22-2015 | 03:28 PM
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This is simply the one part of our current agreement that they are honoring. They are spinning it to make themselves look generous. Nothing to see here and nothing has changed.
Old 04-22-2015 | 03:29 PM
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It's interesting they would do that when they won't talk about pay increases much in negotiations.
Old 04-22-2015 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Uncle Wurmy
Also, if you have a true emergency then declare an emergency. What is the reasoning behind people being afraid to declare an emergency when they truly have one? Is it to protect the company? Is it to try and keep it all a secret? I have heard so many stories about losing engines or something like that and then the pilots say that they felt uneasy declaring an emergency, so they didn't. This makes no sense to me, get ATC and everyone you can to help you make a safe landing for you and your passengers!
I highly doubt that, someone is pulling your leg. You have an engine failure and don't declare an emergency your airline career is over.
Old 04-22-2015 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by eagleatr
It's interesting they would do that when they won't talk about pay increases much in negotiations.

It is because they have more pressure than ever to follow the PWR... A year ago they would have conveniently forgotten about this detail. More work to be done...
Old 04-22-2015 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by tom11011
I highly doubt that, someone is pulling your leg. You have an engine failure and don't declare an emergency your airline career is over.
I don't doubt that. Down in The Miami freight business, guys would have all sorts of engine failures, smoke, incapacitated crew, etc. I remember no one ever declaring an emergency. Reasons? Company men, I suppose. Funny thing was that these guys would be rewarded by their employers, or were even check airmen. The FAA did zip.
Old 04-22-2015 | 06:08 PM
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I just got done listening to your earnings conference call, and smiled at the big change since the last one. Most of the questions posed this time touched on pilot labor concerns versus only one or two last time. But hey, MG says of course Allegiant wants happy pilots and the pay raise he is so graciously giving you will mean a senior CA will now make $160 an hour. Sounds really good... until you note that the most junior CA at DAL makes $179. Junior FO pay is still gonna be >$20 an hour below the majors too, and I already know your schedules are waaay worse. I also saw the articles this week about Allegiant's maintenance issues, but I never saw any comparisons to the DAL or AA MD-80 fleets of similar longevity. I'd think a side by side comparison would really hammer home the point that maintenance is being severely shortchanged. Keep up the good fight and May the Judge Be With You soon.
Old 04-22-2015 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by CLazarus
I just got done listening to your earnings conference call, and smiled at the big change since the last one. Most of the questions posed this time touched on pilot labor concerns versus only one or two last time. But hey, MG says of course Allegiant wants happy pilots and the pay raise he is so graciously giving you will mean a senior CA will now make $160 an hour. Sounds really good... until you note that the most junior CA at DAL makes $179. Junior FO pay is still gonna be >$20 an hour below the majors too, and I already know your schedules are waaay worse. I also saw the articles this week about Allegiant's maintenance issues, but I never saw any comparisons to the DAL or AA MD-80 fleets of similar longevity. I'd think a side by side comparison would really hammer home the point that maintenance is being severely shortchanged. Keep up the good fight and May the Judge Be With You soon.

100% accurate. Thanks for your support.
Old 04-23-2015 | 05:46 AM
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Wheeler said the FAA would block Allegiant from flying to more airports beyond its existing route network and from flying additional planes beyond its current fleet. She said the restrictions are “not uncommon." Allegiant pilots say pay raise hardly a goodwill gesture in labor dispute - VEGAS INC

Yeah, um sure.

The Federal Aviation Administration's (FAA) Atlanta field office sent a memo on February 14, 1996, to Washington, D.C., stating that "consideration should be given to an immediate FAR-121 re-certification of this airline" - in other words, the FAA wanted ValuJet grounded. ValuJet airplanes made 15 emergency landings in 1994, 57 in 1995, and 57 from January through May 1996. In February the FAA ordered ValuJet to seek approval before adding any new aircraft or cities to their network, something the industry had not seen since deregulation in 1979. This attempt at removing ValuJet's certification was "lost in the maze at FAA" according to NTSB Chairman Jim Hall.[7] By this time, ValuJet's accident rate was not only one of the highest in the low-fare sector, but was more than 14 times that of the legacy airlines.[5]
ValuJet Airlines - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hmmm, and what is it they say about those that do not learn from history being doomed to repeat it? Well, at least Valujet didn't have its training department shut down.
Old 04-23-2015 | 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by CLazarus
I'd think a side by side comparison would really hammer home the point that maintenance is being severely shortchanged.

During the last town hall meeting in SFB, the DOM was asked about all the engine failures. He talked for about 10 minutes about how the rate on engine changes at AAY was the same as that at AA. Not a word about engine failures. I'm pretty sure that AA's goal has never been to have at least one good engine on each of their MD80's.
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Originally Posted by grnclvrs
.... I'm pretty sure that AA's goal has never been to have at least one good engine on each of their MD80's.
You may think he's joking, but those words actually have been uttered by maintenance management.
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