Allegiant Air
#2551
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Just for quick reference...
ALGT Executive Compensation up 32.74% in 1 year (2012-2013...2014 not reported yet)
Total Exec. Comp (all positions)
2010 - $2.73 mil
2011 - $4.70 mil
2012 - $7.00 mil
2013 - $9.29 mil
Andrew C. Levy - President & COO
2010 - $1,040,195
2011 - $1,515,020
2012 - $1,910,910
2013 - $5,207,042
ALGT Allegiant Travel Co LLC Executive Compensation
ALGT Executive Compensation up 32.74% in 1 year (2012-2013...2014 not reported yet)
Total Exec. Comp (all positions)
2010 - $2.73 mil
2011 - $4.70 mil
2012 - $7.00 mil
2013 - $9.29 mil
Andrew C. Levy - President & COO
2010 - $1,040,195
2011 - $1,515,020
2012 - $1,910,910
2013 - $5,207,042
ALGT Allegiant Travel Co LLC Executive Compensation
#2553
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Joined APC: Jan 2014
Posts: 194
Careful here, this is entitlement mentality. Knock it off. It's never about what you think you deserve, its what you negotiate. You guys either will or will not negotiate a better contract, that's up to you. You can always start your own airline and pay the pilots whatever you want.
As for one of your prior posts, when someone said we deserved the pay raise mentioned last week and you said that was entitlement mentality, no-it was a contract agreed to by management and upheld by the Federal Courts. No one was whining and saying "we deserve that, it's ours and therefore not just a gift" just because we think we deserve it and have an entitlement mentality. It's a negotiated contractual rate.
I don't think the AAY pilots are looking at pay rates as the huge issue here. Obviously increased pay rates would be great, but safety and QOL are the issues that seem to be on the minds of every pilot I talk to.
Last edited by Uncle Wurmy; 04-29-2015 at 09:24 AM. Reason: ETA: I have never had a problem with executives making good $$, just make sure safety and legal obligations are upheld.
#2554
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I could be wrong, but I don't think the poster has anything to do with AAY. He was just posting executive compensation rates.
As for one of your prior posts, when someone said we deserved the pay raise mentioned last week and you said that was entitlement mentality, no-it was a contract agreed to by management and upheld by the Federal Courts. No one was whining and saying "we deserve that, it's ours and therefore not just a gift" just because we think we deserve it and have an entitlement mentality. It's a negotiated contractual rate.
I don't think the AAY pilots are looking at pay rates as the huge issue here. Obviously increased pay rates would be great, but safety and QOL are the issues that seem to be on the minds of every pilot I talk to.
As for one of your prior posts, when someone said we deserved the pay raise mentioned last week and you said that was entitlement mentality, no-it was a contract agreed to by management and upheld by the Federal Courts. No one was whining and saying "we deserve that, it's ours and therefore not just a gift" just because we think we deserve it and have an entitlement mentality. It's a negotiated contractual rate.
I don't think the AAY pilots are looking at pay rates as the huge issue here. Obviously increased pay rates would be great, but safety and QOL are the issues that seem to be on the minds of every pilot I talk to.
#2556
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Posts: 1,537
I disagree. Unless you are talking about the executives, that is (which you weren't).
LOL
No.
In fact, I will continue to track and post airline executive compensation every time there is new information to post, especially as long as the trends in the graph below remain unchanged. It has nothing to do with "entitlement mentality", unless you are a senior exec. of course. We can clearly see WHO the entitlement-minded folks are in this graph, and it's sure as hell not the flight crews.
Funny how the rise in exec. compensation has far out-paced any increase in corp. profitability. So, no, even THAT argument/explanation falls flat.
LOL
No.
In fact, I will continue to track and post airline executive compensation every time there is new information to post, especially as long as the trends in the graph below remain unchanged. It has nothing to do with "entitlement mentality", unless you are a senior exec. of course. We can clearly see WHO the entitlement-minded folks are in this graph, and it's sure as hell not the flight crews.
Funny how the rise in exec. compensation has far out-paced any increase in corp. profitability. So, no, even THAT argument/explanation falls flat.
#2557
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Posts: 16
Why don't you just become a CEO yourself ? That way you can have the income you so crave.
#2558
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Posts: 2,940
I disagree. Unless you are talking about the executives, that is (which you weren't).
LOL
No.
In fact, I will continue to track and post airline executive compensation every time there is new information to post, especially as long as the trends in the graph below remain unchanged. It has nothing to do with "entitlement mentality", unless you are a senior exec. of course. We can clearly see WHO the entitlement-minded folks are in this graph, and it's sure as hell not the flight crews.
Funny how the rise in exec. compensation has far out-paced any increase in corp. profitability. So, no, even THAT argument/explanation falls flat.
LOL
No.
In fact, I will continue to track and post airline executive compensation every time there is new information to post, especially as long as the trends in the graph below remain unchanged. It has nothing to do with "entitlement mentality", unless you are a senior exec. of course. We can clearly see WHO the entitlement-minded folks are in this graph, and it's sure as hell not the flight crews.
Funny how the rise in exec. compensation has far out-paced any increase in corp. profitability. So, no, even THAT argument/explanation falls flat.
#2559
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Joined APC: Jul 2012
Posts: 480
Careful here, this is entitlement mentality. Knock it off. It's never about what you think you deserve, its what you negotiate. You guys either will or will not negotiate a better contract, that's up to you. You can always start your own airline and pay the pilots whatever you want.
Thanks for your support.
I disagree. Unless you are talking about the executives, that is (which you weren't).
LOL
No.
In fact, I will continue to track and post airline executive compensation every time there is new information to post, especially as long as the trends in the graph below remain unchanged. It has nothing to do with "entitlement mentality", unless you are a senior exec. of course. We can clearly see WHO the entitlement-minded folks are in this graph, and it's sure as hell not the flight crews.
Funny how the rise in exec. compensation has far out-paced any increase in corp. profitability. So, no, even THAT argument/explanation falls flat.
LOL
No.
In fact, I will continue to track and post airline executive compensation every time there is new information to post, especially as long as the trends in the graph below remain unchanged. It has nothing to do with "entitlement mentality", unless you are a senior exec. of course. We can clearly see WHO the entitlement-minded folks are in this graph, and it's sure as hell not the flight crews.
Funny how the rise in exec. compensation has far out-paced any increase in corp. profitability. So, no, even THAT argument/explanation falls flat.
#2560
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Joined APC: Oct 2014
Position: Downward-Facing Dog Pose
Posts: 1,537
As long as it is a publicly held company, I disagree. So does the SEC. Go argue with them and tell them to stop it. You already have my answer. And we all know what the SEC's will be, too.
Fact is, WORKING people are effectively on welfare (esp. 1-4 yr FOs)....highly qualified, licensed, and hard-working people at that. ESPECIALLY relative to corp. profits and exec. salaries!
My position is that if the exec. suite is entitled to profit sharing and/or bonuses related to profitability, so are all the WORKING employees of that publicly traded company. Equally.
Here's a thought for you...
One wrong move by an airline CEO can bring down the profitability and stock price of the company, right?
Guess what?
So can any single flight crew flying the line.
So who really should mean more to the company on a day-to-day basis??
If you are/were, a lot of things would make more sense.
I’m certain he was referring to our generation of American corporate welfare ‘1’ percenters, exhibited by our management’s wealth entitlement mentality. To which our current pay bump is a contractual status quo requirement, that was previously negotiated by our former representatives.
Last edited by SayAlt; 04-29-2015 at 10:36 AM.
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