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Old 09-09-2014 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by EALOFFSPRING
No one ever gave me an answer about the CPO in PIE. Can a non-employed joe access the area, or should I give it a rest? Can someone PM me? Thanks!
No. The CP in SFB and LAS are the ones to talk to or have someone walk your stuff in. Job fair will get you a call as well. Good luck.
Old 09-09-2014 | 09:12 AM
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Just out of curiosity, what is your minimum monthly guarantee?
Old 09-09-2014 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Packrat
Just out of curiosity, what is your minimum monthly guarantee?
It's 70hrs.
Old 09-09-2014 | 12:14 PM
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They are losing so many good people every week.

In 2015....

United to hire around 100/mo
Delta to hire 85/mo
AA/USAir to hire (?)/mo

Yet they want to stand in front of recurrent and tell people that the scheduling proposal by the union will never pass in any way. They want to continue trying to get courts to overturn our wins. They want to make Merlot run a PBS system that is in no way is PBS.

I don't want to leave but this week is their last chance for me and many others I know to see a clear change in philosophy.
Old 09-09-2014 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by labbats
I don't want to leave but this week is their last chance for me and many others I know to see a clear change in philosophy.
When ya gotta go, ya gotta go.
Old 09-09-2014 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by labbats
They are losing so many good people every week.

In 2015....

United to hire around 100/mo
Delta to hire 85/mo
AA/USAir to hire (?)/mo

Yet they want to stand in front of recurrent and tell people that the scheduling proposal by the union will never pass in any way. They want to continue trying to get courts to overturn our wins. They want to make Merlot run a PBS system that is in no way is PBS.

I don't want to leave but this week is their last chance for me and many others I know to see a clear change in philosophy.
I'm with you, man. Seriously, if management rolls in this week with the same dumb a$$ answers at the bargaining table, I'm outa here. I know many others are feeling the same way too. The few of us that are hanging in there, waiting for a contract, will be gone. The company has NO IDEA how bad the situation is. People in this biz have too many choices to be hanging around getting disrespected and abused. Such a shame, this place had such great potential.
Old 09-09-2014 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by dawgdriver
I'm with you, man. Seriously, if management rolls in this week with the same dumb a$$ answers at the bargaining table, I'm outa here. I know many others are feeling the same way too. The few of us that are hanging in there, waiting for a contract, will be gone. The company has NO IDEA how bad the situation is. People in this biz have too many choices to be hanging around getting disrespected and abused. Such a shame, this place had such great potential.
Dawg,
From the outside looking in, it is easier to see. The mgmt is not in it for the long term, they are in it for the short term high energy burn. They can hopefully cash out and leave the employees holding the bag when it really hits the fan.

You on the inside want to believe that they are in it for the long term, but in reality, as long as they can run the operation from month to month, at this point, that is what they are looking for.

In fact, quitting may help them to succeed as they are counting on a steady flow of bright-eyed, bushy tailed new hire pilots who are "happy to be out of the regional ranks" to keep the contract at arms length and have a get-it-done mentality for the operation despite mx concerns and operational shortcomings.

They really appear to have found a sweet spot of "just better than a regional" but much cheaper than a major airline to run operationally.
Best of Luck,
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Old 09-09-2014 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by full of luv
Dawg,
From the outside looking in, it is easier to see. The mgmt is not in it for the long term, they are in it for the short term high energy burn. They can hopefully cash out and leave the employees holding the bag when it really hits the fan.

You on the inside want to believe that they are in it for the long term, but in reality, as long as they can run the operation from month to month, at this point, that is what they are looking for.

In fact, quitting may help them to succeed as they are counting on a steady flow of bright-eyed, bushy tailed new hire pilots who are "happy to be out of the regional ranks" to keep the contract at arms length and have a get-it-done mentality for the operation despite mx concerns and operational shortcomings.

They really appear to have found a sweet spot of "just better than a regional" but much cheaper than a major airline to run operationally.
Best of Luck,
LUV
Very true and very sad. Given the sordid past of these upper management types, I foresee them disappearing in the flames only to emerge two years later starting a new airline with $61/hr captains. The saddest part? The senior guys from Allegiant will be lining up to get steamrolled again.
Old 09-09-2014 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by full of luv
Dawg,
From the outside looking in, it is easier to see. The mgmt is not in it for the long term, they are in it for the short term high energy burn. They can hopefully cash out and leave the employees holding the bag when it really hits the fan.

You on the inside want to believe that they are in it for the long term, but in reality, as long as they can run the operation from month to month, at this point, that is what they are looking for.

In fact, quitting may help them to succeed as they are counting on a steady flow of bright-eyed, bushy tailed new hire pilots who are "happy to be out of the regional ranks" to keep the contract at arms length and have a get-it-done mentality for the operation despite mx concerns and operational shortcomings.

They really appear to have found a sweet spot of "just better than a regional" but much cheaper than a major airline to run operationally.
Best of Luck,
LUV
Sadly, you are right.
Old 09-09-2014 | 08:38 PM
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To the person looking for the CPO I can say that it, unfortunately, will not help. I have had my resume walked in multiple times, attended a job fair where I was told to expect an interview, am current on the MD80 and live within a very short drive of two Florida bases. After having no success I asked a few friends to see what they could find out and they asked a couple different chief pilots who themselves said they did not understand what was going on in the HR department as far as recruitment.

Personally I think that their ideal candidate is someone with something in their background that won't let them move on to anywhere better, someone old enough to make Allegiant their home while they finish out their career, basically someone not likely to make waves or leave. I actually had someone tell me I would have a better chance with a past accident on my record.

A couple of you guys hit the nail on the head with regards to management objectives toward pilot pay and QOL. You are attempting to negotiate a contract so the more senior and experienced guys, that expect and deserve better pay and work rules, they can replace with guys that have been flying around for little pay with no work rules the better their position at the bargaining table. And if they can force everyone out that's fighting back well then they win by default.

It's sad to see that this seems to be the trend in the industry. Pilot wages get pushed down, stock prices go up and stakeholders get rich, all at the expense of safety and the employees. But what do they care, they'll just close the doors and start over somewhere else completely unaffected if something happens.

Anyway, after reading the countless negative posts here and stories from friends I count it a blessing that I did not get the call for an interview. To all you still trying to get on here, best of luck, I hope it all works out for the best. And good luck to the guys working hard to make Allegiant a better place!
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