Allegiant Air
02-26-2016 | 07:10 AM
#1791
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I'm showing 11,054 retirements (AA, UA, DAL, UPS, FDX, ALK) for the next 6 years from today and 20,426 regional pilots as of today. Where are you getting your numbers? Don't forget military, corporate, cargo, charter, returning expat taking some legacy jobs. This will put pressure on the LCC's for sure but this isn't a leak a good contract won't seal in my opinion.
We could also include JetBlue, Frontier, and Spirit in that count.
My data is from an Alpa article, but here is another article showing 18,000.
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02-26-2016 | 07:12 AM
#1792
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I'm showing 11,054 retirements (AA, UA, DAL, UPS, FDX, ALK) for the next 6 years from today and 20,426 regional pilots as of today. Where are you getting your numbers? Don't forget military, corporate, cargo, charter, returning expat taking some legacy jobs. This will put pressure on the LCC's for sure but this isn't a leak a good contract won't seal in my opinion.
I didn't realize there were so many.
02-26-2016 | 07:31 AM
#1793
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The only thing that I have to report is that your trolling is old, your opinions, "advice" and lectures are unwelcome and uniformed and that you should go hang out in the regional forums with your PSA buddies
Your "Allegiant is doomed" mantra is played. Just go.
02-26-2016 | 10:01 AM
#1794
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What group would that be? You and the rest of the PSA pilots?
The only thing that I have to report is that your trolling is old, your opinions, "advice" and lectures are unwelcome and uniformed and that you should go hang out in the regional forums with your PSA buddies
Your "Allegiant is doomed" mantra is played. Just go.
The only thing that I have to report is that your trolling is old, your opinions, "advice" and lectures are unwelcome and uniformed and that you should go hang out in the regional forums with your PSA buddies
Your "Allegiant is doomed" mantra is played. Just go.
02-26-2016 | 11:14 AM
#1795
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I don't believe your numbers are correct, also you don't have Southwest pilots in there. Further without any other data, I cannot tell whether your AA numbers include USAirways. Also, what the numbers do not take into account is the age of the regional pilots who will replace major airline pilots.
We could also include JetBlue, Frontier, and Spirit in that count.
My data is from an Alpa article, but here is another article showing 18,000.
We could also include JetBlue, Frontier, and Spirit in that count.
My data is from an Alpa article, but here is another article showing 18,000.
02-26-2016 | 11:57 AM
#1796
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A lot of those XJT and republic pilots are now at allegiant
02-26-2016 | 02:39 PM
#1798
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From: 1st year pay for the 3rd time
02-26-2016 | 03:24 PM
#1799
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It sounds terrific, it really does. But its going to end. Study the mathematics of what's coming. Six years from today more major airline pilots will have retired than there are regional pilots to replace them with, ie about 18,000. If I was you guys, I would try and switch to alpa so your seniority can be properly integrated. That's what frontier just did, they see the writing on the wall, they will be merged in with spirit. The LCC consolidation hasn't even started yet. Watch for training contracts at LCC's. What's your attrition rate at Allegiant right now?
The Allegiant pilots are best off being represented by IBT in the case that they were to merge with the likes of Spirit, JetBlue, Frontier, etc.
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