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Old 02-24-2016, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by akemps View Post
To give a little more substance to this...
The last 5 captain upgrade slots on this latest bid went as PIT CA, the 2 before that went CVG CA... The last guy to get it (subsequently PIT CA) was a 7/7/15 hire... that said, that group isn't slated for training until early July '16, and will probably hit the line around September. You don't get paid CA pay until you pass your check ride, so effectively, you're not really getting the benefits of being a CA until about 1.3 years, and that's the quickest possible.

Long story short, if you wanna upgrade quick here, in the most junior base, you can... people tend to stay in their bases, even as FO's... but expect a less than stellar QOL for a few years until your seniority builds enough to hold a decent schedule in one of the more desirable bases. I've also seen a bunch of TDY'd captains lately (here in PIT) that aren't too happy about it; so that's a possible downside to to a quick upgrade as well.

All subject to rapid change, but that's what's going on at the moment.
Why would a captain who is awarded a city he bid be on TDY?
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Old 02-24-2016, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by FirstClass View Post
Why would a captain who is awarded a city he bid be on TDY?
'Cause the way marketing schedules the airline you have block hours that can vary widely in each base depending on the season. So in a heavy month they need all the pilots in a particular base but in the slow months they will TDY the "excess" to whatever other base is busy and short of pilots. If you're down near the bottom in your base you are vulnerable....
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Old 02-24-2016, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by tailendcharlie View Post
'Cause the way marketing schedules the airline you have block hours that can vary widely in each base depending on the season. So in a heavy month they need all the pilots in a particular base but in the slow months they will TDY the "excess" to whatever other base is busy and short of pilots. If you're down near the bottom in your base you are vulnerable....
So you have to drive your own car to another base?
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Old 02-24-2016, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by FirstClass View Post
So you have to drive your own car to another base?
They airline you to the TDY, and you get hotel/rental car for the month.
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Old 02-24-2016, 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 9easy View Post
They airline you to the TDY, and you get hotel/rental car for the month.
What a deal for the family man.
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Old 02-25-2016, 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 9easy View Post
They airline you to the TDY, and you get hotel/rental car for the month.
I can see why you have 8 month upgrades now.
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Old 02-25-2016, 05:21 AM
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So engine problems and endless maintenance issues don't seem to cause much havoc, but one kid getting the hives and the tolerant people from the People's Republic of Washington acting quite normally gets nationwide airplay...
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Old 02-25-2016, 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by FirstClass View Post
I can see why you have 8 month upgrades now.
That and the seniority list grew almost 50% from less than a year ago.
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Old 02-25-2016, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by FirstClass View Post
I can see why you have 8 month upgrades now.
Just about the only reason to put up with that kind of sh*tty G4 work environment is so you can get the type rating and build hours. In the mean time you hope for something to change to make it a better place, but the upper mgmt isn't going to do anything they aren't forced to. Right now the CEO attitude is pretty much "my way or the hiway". He seems to have an endless supply of pilot applicants so isn't compelled to make any improvements.
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Old 02-25-2016, 12:37 PM
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Grats to the FA's and their vote to remain unionized...
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