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Old 02-23-2016 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by FirstClass
What? You guys have 8 month airbus upgrades??
That speaks volumes about the environment at AAY.
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Old 02-23-2016 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by rokgpsman
That speaks volumes about the environment at AAY.
It's different from every other airline where you normally take the first upgrade and commute until you can hold your own base again. With all day trips and schedules/airports that aren't commuter friendly, most don't leave their family to chase an upgrade. New bases go junior.
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Old 02-23-2016 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by KC135
It's different from every other airline where you normally take the first upgrade and commute until you can hold your own base again. With all day trips and schedules/airports that aren't commuter friendly, most don't leave their family to chase an upgrade. New bases go junior.
That's pretty true. Many could hold capt at different bases but that would require a pickup and move. No thanks.
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Old 02-23-2016 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by fishforfun
That's pretty true. Many could hold capt at different bases but that would require a pickup and move. No thanks.
I agree. I refuse to move my family for an upgrade at Allegiant. Being captain here isn't worth it. Everyone I've talked to agree, which is why you see upgrade go so junior.
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Old 02-23-2016 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by KC135
It's different from every other airline where you normally take the first upgrade and commute until you can hold your own base again. With all day trips and schedules/airports that aren't commuter friendly, most don't leave their family to chase an upgrade. New bases go junior.
To give a little more substance to this...
The last 5 captain upgrade slots on this latest bid went as PIT CA, the 2 before that went CVG CA... The last guy to get it (subsequently PIT CA) was a 7/7/15 hire... that said, that group isn't slated for training until early July '16, and will probably hit the line around September. You don't get paid CA pay until you pass your check ride, so effectively, you're not really getting the benefits of being a CA until about 1.3 years, and that's the quickest possible.

Long story short, if you wanna upgrade quick here, in the most junior base, you can... people tend to stay in their bases, even as FO's... but expect a less than stellar QOL for a few years until your seniority builds enough to hold a decent schedule in one of the more desirable bases. I've also seen a bunch of TDY'd captains lately (here in PIT) that aren't too happy about it; so that's a possible downside to to a quick upgrade as well.

All subject to rapid change, but that's what's going on at the moment.
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Old 02-23-2016 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by akemps
To give a little more substance to this...
The last 5 captain upgrade slots on this latest bid went as PIT CA, the 2 before that went CVG CA... The last guy to get it (subsequently PIT CA) was a 7/7/15 hire... that said, that group isn't slated for training until early July '16, and will probably hit the line around September. You don't get paid CA pay until you pass your check ride, so effectively, you're not really getting the benefits of being a CA until about 1.3 years, and that's the quickest possible.

Long story short, if you wanna upgrade quick here, in the most junior base, you can... people tend to stay in their bases, even as FO's... but expect a less than stellar QOL for a few years until your seniority builds enough to hold a decent schedule in one of the more desirable bases. I've also seen a bunch of TDY'd captains lately (here in PIT) that aren't too happy about it; so that's a possible downside to to a quick upgrade as well.

All subject to rapid change, but that's what's going on at the moment.
Captain pay starts with first revenue flight as CA. Free advise from 10 yr plus CA at Allegiant: Bid CA only if you have previous CA experience with a FAR Part 121 carrier or you have FO experience in type. The opportunity for a quick upgrade is here but the stakes are high. Best of luck to all, of course, but beware.
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Old 02-23-2016 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Machaca
There can be no break for such ineptitude...a management individual that plugs in her laptop for the entire class to see with a digital sticky note..."Don't give pilots what they ask for". Constant errors, rude behavior, lucky if you see her work 9-3 on a weekday. Ask any XJET pilot who was there when she was and they'll tell you the same thing. We are expected to provide excellence in everything we do, how is it unreasonable to expect the same from the people who are allegedly responsible for running the show?
Please tell me you are not talking about that Stefanie chick! Is she still there? Some airlines use this weird new thing called a "computer" to process vacancies.
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Old 02-23-2016 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by CLMP
Please tell me you are not talking about that Stefanie chick! Is she still there? Some airlines use this weird new thing called a "computer" to process vacancies.
Come on man, that's a low blow by any standards! Karma is a B***@!
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Old 02-23-2016 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Clearedforils
Come on man, that's a low blow by any standards! Karma is a B***@!
I'll take my chances. Enjoy Revision 8.
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Old 02-24-2016 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by CLMP
Please tell me you are not talking about that Stefanie chick! Is she still there? Some airlines use this weird new thing called a "computer" to process vacancies.
Yes...she's still gumming up the works. She apparently has high level protection...
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