Allegiant Air
04-30-2016 | 09:04 AM
#2551
Gets Weekends Off
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Hopefully those that can move on, will get that chance before you know what happens. Or at least get that big airplane PIC to pump up the resume. Or sell that Airbus type to JetBlue/Frontier/Spirit. Shooting for the stars of course is what we all strive for. While not everyone will make it to the Legacies, the quality (U)LCCs are very doable.
Just don't come here buying into the crap Allegiant management alludes to, that there is a contract right around the corner.
Just don't come here buying into the crap Allegiant management alludes to, that there is a contract right around the corner.
04-30-2016 | 09:26 AM
#2552
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From: Da Bus
Affirmative! There will be no contract here any time soon. My guess is at least 2 years minimum. Management showed their true intentions at the last round of negotiations. The only contract we will be able to get them to agree to, is basically equivalent to the crappy "work rules" we have now. They are nothing more than lying scum, hellbent on making a profit at any cost. Until our entire management staff is replaced, this is not an airline to attempt to make a career at.
04-30-2016 | 09:58 AM
#2553
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After 3 years of stonewalling and dismissing, it's been smooth sailing, rainbows and ice cream lately because management needed some good press and economic issues have not been on the table. That will probably change. Bank on MG ponying up with an industry-standard pay scale and ZERO work rules. Old play book used ever since his 'death by 1000 paper cuts' days at west air. Scheduling, work rules and premium pay will likely be the battleground. Strategy will likely involve splitting the pilots and Ibt by trying to blow skirts up with eye popping pay scale enhancements. As a minimum, in management's eyes it will serve to attract and retain a sustainable number of pilots to fill the seats and continue the growth. Jmo.
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04-30-2016 | 10:22 AM
#2554
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It's been smooth sailing, rainbows and ice cream so far because economic issues have not been on the table. That will probably change. Bank on MG ponying up with an industry-standard pay scale and zero work rules. Old play book used ever since his 'death by 1000 paper cuts' experience at west air. Scheduling, work rules and premium pay will likely be the battleground. Strategy will likely involve splitting the pilots and Ibt by trying to blow skirts up with eye popping pay scale enhancements. As a minimum, in management's eyes it will serve to attract and retain a sustainable number of pilots to fill the seats and continue the growth. Jmo.
04-30-2016 | 06:28 PM
#2555
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That's a spot on analysis. Worked the first time when he sold higher ‘pay band’ rates and a reduction in min guarantee. MG has all the corruption angles covered to keep things ‘status quo’. But hey, what's there not to like? Flight controls that don't control and motors that don’t motor: (IWA)Wind-shear 50’, TOGA w t f ?! (311NV)..
04-30-2016 | 06:37 PM
#2556
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From: Da Bus
They're just shuffling the deck enough to make it appear as though they are doing something. The rotten to the core lot of our management needs to go before I'll believe there is a chance of real change.
04-30-2016 | 07:19 PM
#2558
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From: A320
I'd trust the FAA to do what they need to. Allegiant isn't the first airline to get in trouble. America West was threatened to be grounded over maintenance discrepancies and paid millions in fines. Southwest has paid way more than America West did in maintenance fines, having had to ground 128 planes and pay over $5 million in fines. Airlines have almost lost their ability to have an MEL over pencil whipping, which would have put them under Part 91 rules (everything must work) for maintenance.
One can only hope that the FAA will do what's appropriate if the company can't do it. Until then, it's up to the mechanic and the Captain who sign off the airplane as airworthy to do theirs and not sign it off if it isn't safe.
One can only hope that the FAA will do what's appropriate if the company can't do it. Until then, it's up to the mechanic and the Captain who sign off the airplane as airworthy to do theirs and not sign it off if it isn't safe.
05-01-2016 | 11:14 AM
#2559
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We don't spend money on aircraft, maintenance, or employees. What makes you think we spend money on finding top-quality managers? There's a reason these people are here and not at a legacy.
05-01-2016 | 02:34 PM
#2560
Swimmin' in da pool
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The FAA will conduct their media-induced investigation to satisfy their regulatory obligation and keep the heat off. They will then issue their findings and grant the company ample time to address their concerns. Management knows the drill and will do the obligatory minimum two-step to satisfy the requirement.
Yes, this has happened at other airlines, the difference being that others can survive a major mishap, Allegiant probably cannot
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