Allegiant Air
01-25-2017, 08:27 AM
#5001
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Joined APC: Apr 2011
Position: FO
Posts: 88
Originally Posted by beech2jet
Hey guys, looking for a typical schedule for PIT FOs. All one days? Several in a row or scattered? Likely to hold out of training or more likely to get the MD-80 out of somewhere else? Thanks.
- Right now PIT is a 2 airplane (airbus) base, rumored to add a third airplane in april or may. The planes fly every day. We were a charter base to begin with, but luckily we have added a good amount of in-house flying; as such, the longevity of PIT is looking cautiously promising.
- There are usually 1 or 2 morning flights and 1 or 2 afternoon flights, show times 5:30 - 7:30am and 2-4pm respectively, the international charters are always in the morning.
- Currently we fly to PIE, SFB, JAX, PGD, SAV, MYR (seasonal), PUJ (Punta cana Apple Vacay charter), CUN (Cancun, also apple charter), and AUS, with a mix of other random crap the company throws in month to month; ex: next month we have a bunch of PIT-JAX-CLE-JAX-PIT 4 leggers in the schedule. Destin, FL will probably be added seasonally starting in May.
- Currently we are 11 FO's, I think the majority (albeit maybe a slim majority) of whom live in base or within driving distance, and don't intend on changing. That said, PIT still seems fairly junior on the FO side and VERY junior on the captain side, spots will continually open up.
- Downside: The top 2 or 3 guys will almost always take the longer leg trips (CUN, PUJ, AUS, 4 leggers) leaving a lot of 4.5 hour florida crap for the rest, so it can be a slog to get 80-90 hrs each month. We are probably a bit overstaffed on FO's at the moment, consequently there is very little open time, and when there is, it goes fast.
- Your seniority in base should certainly be able to hold a pure flying line within a year (best guess), and you should have no trouble holding PIT either right out of training (assuming you get the bus) or very soon thereafter (system bids are monthly), as there is ample movement within the pilot group...currently. Once you have a flying line, grouping days together and days off shouldn't be too hard; as I said, the planes fly every day. As for weekends off... you may have to wait a little while, but maybe not, depends on those above you.
-Nobody really knows the rhyme or reason as to new classes of 80 vs airbus. Its strictly company need, which they don't tell us obviously. Lately its seemed to favor the 80, but it's pretty much a total crapshoot. In any case, no matter what you get, it's nearly certain that within 2 years (at the absolute most, because of the seat lock) you'll be able to be PIT based.
Hope this helps
-Alex-
questions/comments
cel: 484-661-7716
01-25-2017, 08:56 AM
#5002
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2013
Posts: 2,940
Well said.
Originally Posted by akemps
- All day trips (no overnights at allegiant period, except occasional charters)
- Right now PIT is a 2 airplane (airbus) base, rumored to add a third airplane in april or may. The planes fly every day. We were a charter base to begin with, but luckily we have added a good amount of in-house flying; as such, the longevity of PIT is looking cautiously promising.
- There are usually 1 or 2 morning flights and 1 or 2 afternoon flights, show times 5:30 - 7:30am and 2-4pm respectively, the international charters are always in the morning.
- Currently we fly to PIE, SFB, JAX, PGD, SAV, MYR (seasonal), PUJ (Punta cana Apple Vacay charter), CUN (Cancun, also apple charter), and AUS, with a mix of other random crap the company throws in month to month; ex: next month we have a bunch of PIT-JAX-CLE-JAX-PIT 4 leggers in the schedule. Destin, FL will probably be added seasonally starting in May.
- Currently we are 11 FO's, I think the majority (albeit maybe a slim majority) of whom live in base or within driving distance, and don't intend on changing. That said, PIT still seems fairly junior on the FO side and VERY junior on the captain side, spots will continually open up.
- Downside: The top 2 or 3 guys will almost always take the longer leg trips (CUN, PUJ, AUS, 4 leggers) leaving a lot of 4.5 hour florida crap for the rest, so it can be a slog to get 80-90 hrs each month. We are probably a bit overstaffed on FO's at the moment, consequently there is very little open time, and when there is, it goes fast.
- Your seniority in base should certainly be able to hold a pure flying line within a year (best guess), and you should have no trouble holding PIT either right out of training (assuming you get the bus) or very soon thereafter (system bids are monthly), as there is ample movement within the pilot group...currently. Once you have a flying line, grouping days together and days off shouldn't be too hard; as I said, the planes fly every day. As for weekends off... you may have to wait a little while, but maybe not, depends on those above you.
-Nobody really knows the rhyme or reason as to new classes of 80 vs airbus. Its strictly company need, which they don't tell us obviously. Lately its seemed to favor the 80, but it's pretty much a total crapshoot. In any case, no matter what you get, it's nearly certain that within 2 years (at the absolute most, because of the seat lock) you'll be able to be PIT based.
Hope this helps
-Alex-
questions/comments
cel: 484-661-7716
- Right now PIT is a 2 airplane (airbus) base, rumored to add a third airplane in april or may. The planes fly every day. We were a charter base to begin with, but luckily we have added a good amount of in-house flying; as such, the longevity of PIT is looking cautiously promising.
- There are usually 1 or 2 morning flights and 1 or 2 afternoon flights, show times 5:30 - 7:30am and 2-4pm respectively, the international charters are always in the morning.
- Currently we fly to PIE, SFB, JAX, PGD, SAV, MYR (seasonal), PUJ (Punta cana Apple Vacay charter), CUN (Cancun, also apple charter), and AUS, with a mix of other random crap the company throws in month to month; ex: next month we have a bunch of PIT-JAX-CLE-JAX-PIT 4 leggers in the schedule. Destin, FL will probably be added seasonally starting in May.
- Currently we are 11 FO's, I think the majority (albeit maybe a slim majority) of whom live in base or within driving distance, and don't intend on changing. That said, PIT still seems fairly junior on the FO side and VERY junior on the captain side, spots will continually open up.
- Downside: The top 2 or 3 guys will almost always take the longer leg trips (CUN, PUJ, AUS, 4 leggers) leaving a lot of 4.5 hour florida crap for the rest, so it can be a slog to get 80-90 hrs each month. We are probably a bit overstaffed on FO's at the moment, consequently there is very little open time, and when there is, it goes fast.
- Your seniority in base should certainly be able to hold a pure flying line within a year (best guess), and you should have no trouble holding PIT either right out of training (assuming you get the bus) or very soon thereafter (system bids are monthly), as there is ample movement within the pilot group...currently. Once you have a flying line, grouping days together and days off shouldn't be too hard; as I said, the planes fly every day. As for weekends off... you may have to wait a little while, but maybe not, depends on those above you.
-Nobody really knows the rhyme or reason as to new classes of 80 vs airbus. Its strictly company need, which they don't tell us obviously. Lately its seemed to favor the 80, but it's pretty much a total crapshoot. In any case, no matter what you get, it's nearly certain that within 2 years (at the absolute most, because of the seat lock) you'll be able to be PIT based.
Hope this helps
-Alex-
questions/comments
cel: 484-661-7716
01-25-2017, 01:27 PM
#5003
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: MD-80
Posts: 299
More 'Chicken-Little' from the Tampa Bay Times based on older data. With the recent change in MX Mgmt & Corporate Culture, I'd imagine the most recent data would skew quite differently...
Allegiant Air Flights Are Apparently Four Times More Likely To Fail Mid-Flight Than Other Airlines - CraveOnline
Allegiant Air Flights Are Apparently Four Times More Likely To Fail Mid-Flight Than Other Airlines - CraveOnline
01-26-2017, 07:28 PM
#5009
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Joined APC: Jan 2016
Position: jets
Posts: 220
Originally Posted by Machaca
There will not be a dorm attached, but they (not sure who, rumor is Maury, because it would make serious dough for him from the company) are building two new hotels right around the corner from the front entrance of the airport. Given how often the company is incapable of handling regularly occurring crises, this should be a boon for local ops and for bringing people in for training.
01-27-2017, 06:47 AM
#5010
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Joined APC: Jul 2005
Posts: 442
Originally Posted by N1sync
I spoke directly to someone involved with this project, it's true but idk how far past the planning stage it is. It is planned to be a dedicated crew hotel for us and other airlines, knowing the people involved that are not associated with G4 and combining that with the fact that it's got MG's fingerprints on it... I'd say roach motel for sure. Probably dumpy Fairfield inn quality with communal kitchens and once a week maid service.
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