Allegiant Air
12-02-2015, 01:31 PM
#771
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Originally Posted by fishforfun
I don't understand that either. Same thing with the G4 website. Only solidifies things for me.
12-02-2015, 07:16 PM
#772
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Originally Posted by fishforfun
Same thing with the G4 website.
12-03-2015, 05:11 AM
#773
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Originally Posted by FirstClass
I was wondering the same thing, they can't be talking to the pilots as no pilot would take any of that posturing seriously. I figured that was there for the flight attendants, mechanics, etc.. to read.
12-03-2015, 06:50 AM
#774
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Originally Posted by The Chow
I think the target audience for those emails are the other workgroups that have no idea what a pilot is worth. But when they see those emails, and later down the road if we have to strike, the other workgroups will be encouraged to be against us.
12-03-2015, 07:11 AM
#776
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Originally Posted by C6vette088
I don't think those emails are even sent to everybody in the company...just the pilot group. But hey don't let me rain on your conspiracy parade.
Some are, some aren't..... Its what they do
12-03-2015, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by C6vette088
I don't think those emails are even sent to everybody in the company...just the pilot group. But hey don't let me rain on your conspiracy parade.
It was management's wet dream...FREE peer pressure to take shortcuts and thus improve operational reliability. In a lot of cases, it worked. It also created a toxic work environment that will linger in that company for many years...new contract or not.
..and it doesn't matter if it was sent only to the pilots...do you really think that this stuff doesn't get passed around? ...or worse yet, spread by word of mouth?
12-03-2015, 09:05 AM
#778
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Originally Posted by sqwkvfr
It's not a conspiracy. Management's advisors (Ford and Harrison) have ran this playbook many times. Every G4 pilot who came from Republic knows what it's like to deal with dispatchers, schedulers, FAs, or MX people who overtly complain that your write-up, etc., is a "union" or "contract thing."
It was management's wet dream...FREE peer pressure to take shortcuts and thus improve operational reliability. In a lot of cases, it worked. It also created a toxic work environment that will linger in that company for many years...new contract or not.
..and it doesn't matter if it was sent only to the pilots...do you really think that this stuff doesn't get passed around? ...or worse yet, spread by word of mouth?
It was management's wet dream...FREE peer pressure to take shortcuts and thus improve operational reliability. In a lot of cases, it worked. It also created a toxic work environment that will linger in that company for many years...new contract or not.
..and it doesn't matter if it was sent only to the pilots...do you really think that this stuff doesn't get passed around? ...or worse yet, spread by word of mouth?
12-03-2015, 09:28 AM
#779
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Originally Posted by sqwkvfr
It's not a conspiracy. Management's advisors (Ford and Harrison) have ran this playbook many times. Every G4 pilot who came from Republic knows what it's like to deal with dispatchers, schedulers, FAs, or MX people who overtly complain that your write-up, etc., is a "union" or "contract thing."
It was management's wet dream...FREE peer pressure to take shortcuts and thus improve operational reliability. In a lot of cases, it worked. It also created a toxic work environment that will linger in that company for many years...new contract or not.
..and it doesn't matter if it was sent only to the pilots...do you really think that this stuff doesn't get passed around? ...or worse yet, spread by word of mouth?
It was management's wet dream...FREE peer pressure to take shortcuts and thus improve operational reliability. In a lot of cases, it worked. It also created a toxic work environment that will linger in that company for many years...new contract or not.
..and it doesn't matter if it was sent only to the pilots...do you really think that this stuff doesn't get passed around? ...or worse yet, spread by word of mouth?
12-03-2015, 09:38 AM
#780
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Originally Posted by disco inferno
I am not interested in what anyone from any other work group thinks of us. I don't care what management thinks of us. My only concern is attaining an industry leading contract from the most profitable airline in the world. The money is there. Let's take it, even if we have to beat it out of them with a strike. I'm 99% sure that's what it will take anyway. No mercy.
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