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Old 12-03-2015 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by The Chow
I think the target audience for those emails are the other workgroups that have no idea what a pilot is worth. But when they see those emails, and later down the road if we have to strike, the other workgroups will be encouraged to be against us.
And how does an IT guy have any impact on our ability to strike? I dont give one thought to what any of the other employees think.
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Old 12-03-2015 | 06:57 AM
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I don't think those emails are even sent to everybody in the company...just the pilot group. But hey don't let me rain on your conspiracy parade.
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Old 12-03-2015 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by C6vette088
I don't think those emails are even sent to everybody in the company...just the pilot group. But hey don't let me rain on your conspiracy parade.
Some are, some aren't..... Its what they do
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Old 12-03-2015 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by C6vette088
I don't think those emails are even sent to everybody in the company...just the pilot group. But hey don't let me rain on your conspiracy parade.
It's not a conspiracy. Management's advisors (Ford and Harrison) have ran this playbook many times. Every G4 pilot who came from Republic knows what it's like to deal with dispatchers, schedulers, FAs, or MX people who overtly complain that your write-up, etc., is a "union" or "contract thing."

It was management's wet dream...FREE peer pressure to take shortcuts and thus improve operational reliability. In a lot of cases, it worked. It also created a toxic work environment that will linger in that company for many years...new contract or not.

..and it doesn't matter if it was sent only to the pilots...do you really think that this stuff doesn't get passed around? ...or worse yet, spread by word of mouth?
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Old 12-03-2015 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by sqwkvfr
It's not a conspiracy. Management's advisors (Ford and Harrison) have ran this playbook many times. Every G4 pilot who came from Republic knows what it's like to deal with dispatchers, schedulers, FAs, or MX people who overtly complain that your write-up, etc., is a "union" or "contract thing."

It was management's wet dream...FREE peer pressure to take shortcuts and thus improve operational reliability. In a lot of cases, it worked. It also created a toxic work environment that will linger in that company for many years...new contract or not.

..and it doesn't matter if it was sent only to the pilots...do you really think that this stuff doesn't get passed around? ...or worse yet, spread by word of mouth?
I am not interested in what anyone from any other work group thinks of us. I don't care what management thinks of us. My only concern is attaining an industry leading contract from the most profitable airline in the world. The money is there. Let's take it, even if we have to beat it out of them with a strike. I'm 99% sure that's what it will take anyway. No mercy.
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Old 12-03-2015 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by sqwkvfr
It's not a conspiracy. Management's advisors (Ford and Harrison) have ran this playbook many times. Every G4 pilot who came from Republic knows what it's like to deal with dispatchers, schedulers, FAs, or MX people who overtly complain that your write-up, etc., is a "union" or "contract thing."

It was management's wet dream...FREE peer pressure to take shortcuts and thus improve operational reliability. In a lot of cases, it worked. It also created a toxic work environment that will linger in that company for many years...new contract or not.

..and it doesn't matter if it was sent only to the pilots...do you really think that this stuff doesn't get passed around? ...or worse yet, spread by word of mouth?
I don't know what you do with your free time but I sure don't spend mine passing around company emails to people in other departments. I agree with Disco...couldn't care less what the dispatcher or whoever else thinks of the pilot group.
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Old 12-03-2015 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by disco inferno
I am not interested in what anyone from any other work group thinks of us. I don't care what management thinks of us. My only concern is attaining an industry leading contract from the most profitable airline in the world. The money is there. Let's take it, even if we have to beat it out of them with a strike. I'm 99% sure that's what it will take anyway. No mercy.
Right on bro. Let's give it to them. And don't forget the individual efforts in support of the cause. i.e., Noticing a lot of mission modes, lets keep up the integrity efforts. Those medicals are pesky to maintain to the fullest effect of FARs. Cheers to our safety sophisticated brethren. Popping corn and watching a total melt down warms the heart this christmas season. Happy Holidays.
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Old 12-03-2015 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by C6vette088
I don't know what you do with your free time but I sure don't spend mine passing around company emails to people in other departments. I agree with Disco...couldn't care less what the dispatcher or whoever else thinks of the pilot group.
The discussion isn't about whether you or anyone, for that matter, cares about what others think or how either of us spends our free time, it is about how TheChow's point is correct.

It is.

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Old 12-03-2015 | 11:50 AM
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U.S. Airlines Set for Pivotal Year for Labor - Barron's
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Old 12-03-2015 | 02:17 PM
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Can you paste the article for those of us without a subscription?
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