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12-18-2015, 07:35 AM
#951
Swimmin' in da pool
Joined APC: Jan 2014
Posts: 444
Originally Posted by Stok1
Whaaaat, I thought Mav told us a thorough, robust and unflinching internal investigation was conducted? Allegiant Air management without prejudice found no wrongdoing by Allegiant? Mav wouldn't lie to us?
Jetliner's Low-Fuel Landing Draws U.S. FAA Reprimand to Airline - Bloomberg Business
Jetliner's Low-Fuel Landing Draws U.S. FAA Reprimand to Airline - Bloomberg Business
Fuel discretion was one of these gifts (many captain authority items were taken away). Planes were to be pre-fueled by inexperienced dispatchers sending 'canned' releases without input from captains. Pilots had to
call and justify their request for more fuel which sometimes meant calling the fuel truck back and taking a delay. Dispatchers were pressured too. The pilot in-house (APAG) argued to no avail. Guys got tired of fighting eventually gave up trying, choosing to divert if necessary. This VP then went so far as to send a letter to the pilots outlining FAA min/emergency fuel procedures! Pilot worries about flying to remote places (like Fargo!!) were arrogantly dismissed. His career may have ended on this poetic note.
Hopefully others in this biz are paying attention and learning from these silly mistakes. For the sake of the G4 pilots, I hope they found a good replacement. Those guys deserve better
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12-18-2015, 08:09 AM
#952
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2006
Position: A320
Posts: 1,347
No permanent replacement chosen even though GB announced his retirement months in advance.
Interim replacement is EG our current VP of Safety. I'm unsure what positions he held at Mesa prior to coming here.
Interim replacement is EG our current VP of Safety. I'm unsure what positions he held at Mesa prior to coming here.
12-18-2015, 08:29 AM
#953
Swimmin' in da pool
Joined APC: Jan 2014
Posts: 444
Originally Posted by labbats
No permanent replacement chosen even though GB announced his retirement months in advance.
Interim replacement is EG our current VP of Safety. I'm unsure what positions he held at Mesa prior to coming here.
Interim replacement is EG our current VP of Safety. I'm unsure what positions he held at Mesa prior to coming here.
12-18-2015, 08:40 AM
#954
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Joined APC: Jan 2009
Posts: 278
Originally Posted by tyler durden
Correct. #17 and #21 out of ~650. Makes for a pretty bold and sad statement. Tack on the number of junior guys leaving, and those getting canned (another captain this week)...
12-18-2015, 09:01 AM
#957
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Joined APC: Oct 2014
Posts: 2,137
Originally Posted by dawgdriver
The irony here is this 'pilot' in is now 'retiring', probably in part because of this self-inflicted incident. This is the same VP that swaggered over there from Northwest-Delta and was openly welcomed by the G4 guys. Their enthusiasm turned to disappointment after endless bloviations about 'legacy creep' and "family first" while sending guys TDY for a year on uncommutable schedules. Soon all communication virtually stopped. The in-house reps requests to meet were ignored while pilots were handed Merlot, mission mode abuse, loss of pay and QOL, and countless other 'gifts'. I couldn't take it anymore and gave up hoping for things to improve. It's no surprise they unionized after that.
Fuel discretion was one of these gifts (many captain authority items were taken away). Planes were to be pre-fueled by inexperienced dispatchers sending 'canned' releases without input from captains. Pilots had to
call and justify their request for more fuel which sometimes meant calling the fuel truck back and taking a delay. Dispatchers were pressured too. The pilot in-house (APAG) argued to no avail. Guys got tired of fighting eventually gave up trying, choosing to divert if necessary. This VP then went so far as to send a letter to the pilots outlining FAA min/emergency fuel procedures! Pilot worries about flying to remote places (like Fargo!!) were arrogantly dismissed. His career may have ended on this poetic note.
Hopefully others in this biz are paying attention and learning from these silly mistakes. For the sake of the G4 pilots, I hope they found a good replacement. Those guys deserve better
Fuel discretion was one of these gifts (many captain authority items were taken away). Planes were to be pre-fueled by inexperienced dispatchers sending 'canned' releases without input from captains. Pilots had to
call and justify their request for more fuel which sometimes meant calling the fuel truck back and taking a delay. Dispatchers were pressured too. The pilot in-house (APAG) argued to no avail. Guys got tired of fighting eventually gave up trying, choosing to divert if necessary. This VP then went so far as to send a letter to the pilots outlining FAA min/emergency fuel procedures! Pilot worries about flying to remote places (like Fargo!!) were arrogantly dismissed. His career may have ended on this poetic note.
Hopefully others in this biz are paying attention and learning from these silly mistakes. For the sake of the G4 pilots, I hope they found a good replacement. Those guys deserve better
12-18-2015, 05:49 PM
#960
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Joined APC: Jul 2015
Position: on the bench
Posts: 157
Originally Posted by Stok1
Whaaaat, I thought Mav told us a thorough, robust and unflinching internal investigation was conducted? Allegiant Air management without prejudice found no wrongdoing by Allegiant? Mav wouldn't lie to us?
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