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11-05-2017 | 05:01 AM

#101

SurfOBX12

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I think that it is worth noting the demographic of recent new hires. Most are older and from Envoy. I would imagine most of these guys are more apt to wait for a G4 in DFW or LAX rather than commuting to LGA to sit rsv as a CA. It will be interesting to see if QOL will win over money going forward.

11-06-2017 | 06:20 AM

#102

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They are already seeing that in Chicago. A lot of older guys sitting right seat on the 73 that could upgrade but are choosing QOL over pay for their last few years.

11-07-2017 | 09:23 AM

#103

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How hard is it to get into CLT?? Hoping that all this hiring will speed up that base bid. I've been told it's quite senior there.

11-07-2017 | 10:03 AM

#104

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Junior 320 FO has been here eight months.

CLT is w/b poor. So in general w/b flying might even be more senior than the overall base seniority.

11-07-2017 | 10:04 AM

#105

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How hard is it to get into CLT?? Hoping that all this hiring will speed up that base bid. I've been told it's quite senior there.

Lots of junior guys went to CLT in June, but since then they've almost completely shut down the FO track to there.

I would be about 94% there and I've had my bid in since August. No movement and the bids haven't shown any FO openings there.

11-07-2017 | 10:29 AM

#106

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The good news is CLT has approx. 115 retirements next year. Largest number amongst all the bases. Unless flying decreases that should provide some openings.

11-18-2017 | 07:21 PM

#107

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sliceback

The good news is CLT has approx. 115 retirements next year. Largest number amongst all the bases. Unless flying decreases that should provide some openings.

No kidding, every PHL or CLT captain I've flown with recently retires within the next two years.

11-19-2017 | 04:51 AM

#108

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2017 + 2018 retirements (early 2017 tally)(base size nearest 50) -

CLT - 210. Base size -1550. 13.5%
PHL - 159. Base size - 1300. 12.2%

Assuming 85% of retirements are Captains 24% of both the CLT and PHL CA’s are retiring in 2017-2028.

For comparison -

DFW - 81/2500. 3.2%. 6.2% of CA’s
LAX - 56/1350. 4.1%. 8.1%
MIA - 75/2100. 3.6%. 6.8%

Retirements don’t necessarily mean movement if the flying shifts elsewhere (comment for people new to the industry).

Last edited by Sliceback; 11-19-2017 at 04:58 AM. Reason: Added - assuming...

12-08-2017 | 04:58 PM

#109

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Assuming 85% of retirements are Captains 24% of both the CLT and PHL CA’s are retiring in 2017-2028.
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Just checking... did you mean 2017-2028 or 2017-2018?

That would seem like either a very small amount or a very large amount mattering on if that was a typo or not.