buddies8

Actually it's not a rah flight, it's an aa flight on rah equipment, rah gets priority to jumpseat then aa/wo then oal. Simple as that. Your problem is an I.T. issue with aa not the way aa/wo get jumpseat.
Fight it all you want, if aa caves in I will be surprised but they aa mgt likes to **** off employees in the first place so maybe you get it.

jetflyer123

Pretty cocky to think a commuter airline with 80 planes operating a contract for a flag carrier is going to start a jumpseat war with the worlds largest airline over priority on the flag carrier’s own coded flights and not need a little luck. It is this exact attitude that is going to turn us against you and fight this. Most of us on here think what you are asking for is fair, but the few clowns on here trying to swing your **** like you have a dog in the fight is why you are getting the response from AA pilots you are currently getting. You truly think that the AA pilots and APA are just going to accept this? You think that AA, who owns 25% of Republic doesn’t have the pull with the board of directors at RAH to reverse this? I think you’ll need a little luck which is ok to admit. Hell, I’ll take a little luck any day of the week. Clearly you are blinded by your own arrogance here.

Jungle Jim

Just wondering...wasn't there supposed to be a response from APA/AA today? First time caller, long time listener...

magnus0322

The only ones swinging their **** around, throwing temper tantrums, spreading false information, threatening denied JS and loss of travel benefits are AA pilots.

How exactly is this a JS war? Are you being denied a JS? No. You are getting reciprocal treatment.

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mainlineAF

Now i know why airways stopped hiring republic guys back in 2013 lol.

jetflyer123

That hasn’t changed much at AA. Granted, outside of being military or a flow you have almost no chance of getting hired here. It’s not actually the republic guys fault though. I’ve met a few great guys over there. Their problem is most of their guys are likely young and know nothing about the industry yet so they blindly follow the Teamsters and it’s merry band of window lickers who are trying to disrupt the status quo with an opponent 20+ times their size. Anyone who has half a brain knows this was driven by their union (why else would the union and not the company inform the gate agents of a change to FOM policy), and of course management “supports” the pilots on this. Why wouldn’t they? It is a no cost item to the company and shows support for the pilots which maintains balance and trust. Would/will they continue to support the pilot group if AA turns on pressure or if this began affecting the bottom line somehow, probably not.

busdriver123456

You mean the management team that withheld a contract for 8+ years? Republic Management hates their pilots. This was driven by both parties it seems. Teamsters are no different than ALPA same noodle different sauce. Local leadership determines more.
ALPA has done nothing but allow this industry to be ripped apart and stomped on. But yeah go ALPA....American rarely hires outside of their flow and Mil guys because they like have sheep as Pilots so they can continue to pass sub par contracts to their Pilot group.

AverageCoffee

This is exactly what has emboldened them to take this action. Very few of their pilots will get an interview with AA so if that number moves to zero, what do they care? The few sitting tall in the left seat of their 175 are staying at RAH. They will hide behind their quality of life and FOM (don’t forget it was signed off by the FAA) and the word “reciprocal”.

But here’s the deal. Republic is Fee For Departure (FFD) and the price paid for that departure has been negotiated with the mainline carrier. If the flight leaves one minute late (just 1, go ask your Pilot on duty) the fee paid for the flight declines significantly. So yes a late departure hurts AA’s stats but it also hurts the Republic bottom line.

So let’s all keep kicking our own a**es.

chrisreedrules

Obvious attempt to troll is obvious.

jetflyer123

A “reciprocal agreement” on OUR FLIGHTS. I fully support that your captains have the right to deny the jumpseat, which is what they will be doing to AA pilots who are properly listed for the jumpseat in accordance with company policy. You want to deny the jumpseat out of order than fine! That’s a jumpseat war.

FAR 121.547 says that in order to sit in the jumpseat you must have permission from the pilot in command and that under his emergency authority the PIC can exclude anyone from the cockpit in the interest of safety. NO ONE HERE IS ARGUING THAT WHATSOEVER.

What we are arguing is the fact that a handful of your brightest crayon munchers are stating that this is not a change to priority and is a true reciprocal agreement. A reciprocal agreement means I can ride your jumpseat and you can ride mine, ok that box is checked.

Now that we have those two items out of the way, the next issue in the reciprocity agreement would be how we are cleared from the standby list in accordance with the flag carriers travel/jumpseat policy. Mine says pilots on their own metal, D1 FDJ, D2 FDJ, D6UJ. Yours says..... oh wait that’s right you didn’t sell a single ticket, your RJ says American Eagle on the side of it, you were hired to operate the way we tell you to operate, you use our gate agents, and the standby list, including jumpseats, for AA flights is cleared in accordance with AA policy. By all means, tell us we can’t ride, that is 100% your right, but when we’ve done everything right in accordance with the policy that trumps yours and you remove us for the Delta guy, it’s a jumpseat war. Trying to hide behind the fact that your FOM states this is “the law” is retarded. The FAA doesn’t care about what the priority list for a jumpseat is beyond FAA, NTSB, Secret Service etc, and I doubt AA is going to let a little contract carrier put pressure on them just because they changed their FOM. That is setting a dangerous precedent, and I doubt they would take that risk. While this is small, what would be next?

All that being said, I still think you guys are right, and if it wasn’t for a few of your finest on here pounding their chests because “we’ve successfully changed the jumpseat priority and are going to treat AA pilots the way they treated us all these years,” there would probably be a lot of guys that would go to bat for you. Like we’ve said, we had no idea, but the way these guys have been on here I’d rather just throw them a comfort animal and send them off to their safe space. They can sit there and feel great about themselves for bumping the American guy off an American flight and giving it to United. Bravo