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11-16-2019 | 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by FlyyGuyy

I didn't have that kind of time when I came over. 5k tt 3.5k 121pic. From PSA/pdt that's probably a closer guess

I was about 4K to and 1.5k TPIC when hired at Airways. No clue what my tt is now but on my last medical I think I put 9500

A lot of the new hire FOs I fly with have quite a bit more time than me

11-16-2019 | 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by FlyyGuyy

I didn't have that kind of time when I came over. 5k tt 3.5k 121pic. From PSA/pdt that's probably a closer guess

The Envoy flows are probably higher time. One I know flowed earlier this year with 22,000 hours. Good guy and great pilot.

I'm sure there are others.

11-16-2019 | 04:01 PM

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The Envoy flows are probably higher time. One I know flowed earlier this year with 22,000 hours. Good guy and great pilot.

I'm sure there are others.

Holy cow. That's a chunk of time.

The hardest thing to learn has been the AA way of doing things like Dallas and ORD. I seriously doubt there's people coming over via the flow with very little experience.

11-17-2019 | 01:22 PM

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I’ll have over 6,000 total and almost 3,000 TPIC when I flow. I’d say most flows are well-qualified.

11-17-2019 | 03:02 PM

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You act as though AA has no way to get rid of an undesirable pilot. Pilot's get fired all the time, hell, Delta has fired many 9E SSP folks, and they only take ~60% of 9E pilots that apply. If Endeavor had a flow, I wouldn't be making over $150K here.

Delta has fired many 9E pilots? Can you put a number on that. My understanding is 3 total.

11-17-2019 | 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

Delta has fired many 9E pilots? Can you put a number on that. My understanding is 3 total.

Regional counting skills:
1 : one
2 : more
3 : lots
....
4 : profit

11-18-2019 | 03:15 AM

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Kind of enjoy the other side of the scale as well. One of the 190 forced upgrades was the #1 fo at regional. loved the schedule and didn’t need the money. he had 0 121TPIC as is a mainline capt. I only had logged 19 hours my last 24 months at regional. Another guy who was hired into the training dept at regional tried to be the lowest hourly pilot at AA. unfortunately, he was beat out by some mil guys. but as far as 121 time I think he was low at less than 3k. not bad for a flow. Goal is work as little as possible right? Way I looked at it is there are no ASAPs in sim world. I was master level at TEM.

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11-18-2019 | 08:31 AM

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Way I looked at it is there are no ASAPs in sim world. I was master level at TEM.

Scared of your own shadow?

11-18-2019 | 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules

I’ll have over 6,000 total and almost 3,000 TPIC when I flow. I’d say most flows are well-qualified.

I don’t think the knock is against their stats. It’s the “I can’t make it to the majors the normal way” enriched hiring pool and “i can make it to the majors the normal way” depleted flow stream that people object to