The AA Flow-Thru Agreements MUST END
11-21-2019 | 03:07 PM
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11-21-2019 | 03:16 PM
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That being said, some real psychopaths have been hired off the street at AA. If the 6-9 year flow isn't good at sorting them out, neither is the 3 day interview process.
11-21-2019 | 04:46 PM
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quality of flow candidates aside (which has been mentioned that flow airlines are the home of the deplorable with no other option for a major except to hold a golden ticket).... the flow is only going to continue to strengthen AA managements position to give AA pilots subpar contracts and treatment because such a giant percentage of pilots didnt actually earn a job at AA.
contract negotiations will likely go like this...
AA pilots:give us industry standard
AA management: youre lucky to be here, you'll get nothing
contract negotiations will likely go like this...
AA pilots:give us industry standard
AA management: youre lucky to be here, you'll get nothing
11-21-2019 | 04:57 PM
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quality of flow candidates aside (which has been mentioned that flow airlines are the home of the deplorable with no other option for a major except to hold a golden ticket).... the flow is only going to continue to strengthen AA managements position to give AA pilots subpar contracts and treatment because such a giant percentage of pilots didnt actually earn a job at AA.
contract negotiations will likely go like this...
AA pilots:give us industry standard
AA management: youre lucky to be here, you'll get nothing
contract negotiations will likely go like this...
AA pilots:give us industry standard
AA management: youre lucky to be here, you'll get nothing
11-21-2019 | 05:16 PM
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quality of flow candidates aside (which has been mentioned that flow airlines are the home of the deplorable with no other option for a major except to hold a golden ticket).... the flow is only going to continue to strengthen AA managements position to give AA pilots subpar contracts and treatment because such a giant percentage of pilots didnt actually earn a job at AA.
contract negotiations will likely go like this...
AA pilots:give us industry standard
AA management: youre lucky to be here, you'll get nothing
contract negotiations will likely go like this...
AA pilots:give us industry standard
AA management: youre lucky to be here, you'll get nothing
Better hope that flowback language is bulletproof.
11-21-2019 | 05:27 PM
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11-21-2019 | 06:20 PM
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quality of flow candidates aside (which has been mentioned that flow airlines are the home of the deplorable with no other option for a major except to hold a golden ticket).... the flow is only going to continue to strengthen AA managements position to give AA pilots subpar contracts and treatment because such a giant percentage of pilots didnt actually earn a job at AA.
contract negotiations will likely go like this...
AA pilots:give us industry standard
AA management: youre lucky to be here, you'll get nothing
contract negotiations will likely go like this...
AA pilots:give us industry standard
AA management: youre lucky to be here, you'll get nothing
11-21-2019 | 07:46 PM
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quality of flow candidates aside (which has been mentioned that flow airlines are the home of the deplorable with no other option for a major except to hold a golden ticket).... the flow is only going to continue to strengthen AA managements position to give AA pilots subpar contracts and treatment because such a giant percentage of pilots didnt actually earn a job at AA.
contract negotiations will likely go like this...
AA pilots:give us industry standard
AA management: youre lucky to be here, you'll get nothing
contract negotiations will likely go like this...
AA pilots:give us industry standard
AA management: youre lucky to be here, you'll get nothing
After all, what do they know about working in a unionized shop, with collective bargaining, labor vs management, etc.
They're just happy to be here and blindly follow orders from the top. I'm sure they'll take nothing.
11-21-2019 | 08:41 PM
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Yea that doesn’t make any sense. What is to keep Spirit or wherever you work from threatening to furlough you and send you back to the regionals? Or what keeps United and Delta from threatening the same thing to their pilots? What does flow have anything to do with contract negotiations? Why would this be a unique problem at AA?
11-22-2019 | 05:18 AM
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Not true
If you can’t get out of the regionals better look inward. Been in the USA less then three years, no degree, Airbus training starts in January. Possibly you would rather flow, and also have become comfortable?, not looking 100 percent? I was due to flow in three and been at my regional 2.3 years. Look hard and focus something will transpire if you really want it too!
I hope you don’t get rid of it.. I’ve been in the regionals for 12 years left seat for 7 years now. I have no degree and therefore can’t get hired. Left my previous regional for said flow. Looking like 7 years till I flow as of now. No failed check rides no violations. No accidents nothing!, not even a speeding ticket. Can’t get a call to save my life. Hoping the flow works for me. Just a normal guy who likes to fly airplanes, I love being home with the wife and kids. Never been in any trouble. Don’t know what the secret is to getting hired. I guess I just have bad luck..
Last edited by iaveight; 11-22-2019 at 05:31 AM.
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