How long will it last?
10-18-2020, 02:42 PM
#193
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Originally Posted by bababouey
If liquidation was such a high probability, then why does the stock still have value?
That is a very valid question. What WOULD anyone pay $12.46 a share for something that is most recently losing $8.19 a share annually? Nor would I bet on any dividends any time very soon.
But I’d think reorganizing under Chapter 11 is more likely than liquidation.
10-18-2020, 02:44 PM
#194
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Originally Posted by biigD
If the industry is still bouncing around 40% come summer of 2021, we’re not going to be the only ones in trouble.
10-18-2020, 03:31 PM
#196
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
Yeah, I could never see that happening. 
They won’t want to go to bankruptcy if they have cash to continue waiting it out for a more full recovery. If they go to bankruptcy in some ways, they lose the ability to steer their companies among a sleuth of other things. They will very likely lobby hard against an AA bailout for this reason alone.
10-18-2020, 03:35 PM
#198
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
No one is wishing for AA to fail. Least of all those of us who work for AAG. I just think it’s foolish to think this is all somehow too big or too important to go away. There is precedence and it can absolutely happen. Not much we can do about it however.
You also have to remember... For as hard as Doug and AA will be lobbying the federal government and likely several of the states, the leadership at competing airlines will be lobbying against an AA bailout too.
You also have to remember... For as hard as Doug and AA will be lobbying the federal government and likely several of the states, the leadership at competing airlines will be lobbying against an AA bailout too.
American Airlines will be fine. They ain’t going anywhere. Worst case, they come out of this a smaller airline and will have to tighten up with some tough years ahead.
10-18-2020, 03:43 PM
#199
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AA’s debt isn’t due (in large part) until starting in 2023. I hope we are out of the woods by then. If you think the optics of America’s largest airline liquidating are acceptable you know better than me. If you think anything other than a return to profitability is in other airlines best interests you may need to rethink things. I personally think AA will take a trip through BK. That will drag at least two, if not three or four through the car wash. We will all get through this. How painful it is, is yet to be known. If AA goes through BK it’s going to be painful for all. If AA liquidates it will throw sand under the foundation of all the airlines.
10-18-2020, 03:43 PM
#200
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
Yeah, I could never see that happening.
Those other airline CEOs suddenly won't be around if there is blood in the water. I'm convinced that CEOs like Gary Kelly are just supporting PSP as part of a greater strategy to gain concessions from union labor and ensure they get an equal share of the pie.
Originally Posted by biigD
If the industry is still bouncing around 40% come summer of 2021, we’re not going to be the only ones in trouble.
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